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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:24 pm 
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Well, i think Ratten has to be commended for staying strong with Stevens.

It's about time somebody did.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:28 pm 
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Rafalution wrote:
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Fisher is only playing because we don't have another big forward marking option. When Setanta is fit fisher is gone.

Hartlett has been playing defense in the ressies hasn't shown nothing as a forward.


Hartlett only needs 1 kick, 1 mark, 1 goal and a tackle to match Fishers output.



He will be lucky to those stats in the last three years. Setanta better then both combined so I wouldn't be upset that Hartlett misses out.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:29 pm 
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I dont get this at all.....

Scotland i can understand shouldnt have been dropped to begin with.
Bower is a given
Yarren at Garlett expense is mind boggling. Garlett gives us run and defensive pressure and they drop him and Bentley and Fisher retain their spots?

I dont understand the thought process behind Bentley. Seems to be a pace off the rest of the field and slow in thought and execution in the two games he has played.

Wheras Garlett has given us alot more and gets dropped?????

Setanta is out injured which all of a sudden has become critical to our structure as Fisher is very lucky to keep his spot in the side.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:30 pm 
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Well, i think Ratten has to be commended for staying strong with Stevens.

It's about time somebody did.


..somethin's definately goin' on, cos there's a good chance Walks will be back in the team next week too, so that's another player gettin' the nod before Stevo.. ..so, if you factor in that a player would come outta this squad for Walks, and another would/will for when Santy's right to go [hopefully next week!!].. ..and knockers soon to make his navy blue debut.. ..Stevo had really better pick up his game.. ..unless there's something else..?..

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:31 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:
Well, i think Ratten has to be commended.


Uh oh, you just opened up Pandora's Box


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:31 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:
Well, i think Ratten has to be commended for staying strong with Stevens.

It's about time somebody did.



YES, and he should also be commended for keeping hacks in the team for weeks on...


A guy like Bentely or Johnson are going to offer more than what Stevens will?


In Fact, Stevens at 50% would still perfom better than half the team....


it is abvious that Ratts has a personal issue with Stevens... he is a Senior player and a top midfielder... its pathetic that he is kept out of the side for 3 weeks... Apparently his Form at training wasnt good enough... what a joke


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:31 pm 
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looking forward to seeing Fisher take a mark or two on the wing, roost the ball 30+ metres, and fall over every time the ball is in his vicinity... :banghead:

but on a positive note, good to see scotland and bower back. we are nowhere near our best side, but we need to be against these sides who play lock down football. will be interesting to see how much the players and coach have learnt since the last time we played. Blues by 12 points

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:34 pm 
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someone hear or somewhere spoke about Jamo and his appendix this week.
Surely if it's an issue, he's a late omission.

And if this is knowledge around these parts then surely other clubs know about it.



If that is the case, you'd assume Hartlett would come back in for Jamison..?


Well it'd be the only opinion really, seeing as Cloke and Stevens are the 2 other emg's.

But I REALLY hope Jamo is playing because, to me at least, his presence REALLY holds the backline together.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:37 pm 
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Bentley and Fisher are extremely lucky. Garlett is probably getting a rest against a mob that would smash him in two if he went hard for the ball.

Got Hartlett and Armfield right. We really think nothing of our tall forward options if Austin doesn't get a look in there.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:37 pm 
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Wouldn't get too worried about Yarran for Garlett, I'd say a man management issue. Garlett's frail body would struggle to hold up after a few games in a row and only 5.5 days recovery time last week. Only wish Yarran would do more to get his spot.

Fish is so lucky. Why not Austin if no Carlos? What have they got to lose? :banghead:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:37 pm 
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blueboy8 wrote:
Fisher is only playing because we don't have another big forward marking option. When Setanta is fit fisher is gone.

Hartlett has been playing defense in the ressies hasn't shown nothing as a forward.


What about Austin? Look Stevens would do more across HF than Fish and thats saying something. Glad Joey gets another gig, Hartlett very unlucky ...surely this guy deserved another game...what does Fisher offer that Harlett does not??? Bewildering to say the least. And then there's Bentley... :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:41 pm 
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I am yet to be impressed with YARAN.. as a top draft pick, he has shown us nothing so far...just bits and peices of some Magic moments and silky skills but nothing else.....


He seems to be too lazy to chase all day and often goes missing for a long period....Gartlett is ahead of him in every department....I hope he picks up and plays a good game...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:44 pm 
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Look for Yarran at a lot of the stoppages. Won't be in the thickest of the traffic, but will do some nice stuff in close if he's about.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:47 pm 
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The MC's magical mystery tour, that has become our selection night staple continues to roll on :roll:

Fisher is surely not the future of this club.....wasn't much of the past for that matter. I would rather have seen Hartlett get a go up forward, and if we really were scrapping the bottom of the barrel for forward options; I would rather even prefer that (shock...horror) Edwards get a go, now that is saying something!! (Although his couple of games in the big league last year were OK, if anyone can remember those).

Bentley is on his last chance before the end of year clear out.....let's see what he's got.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:51 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
blueboy8 wrote:
Fisher is only playing because we don't have another big forward marking option. When Setanta is fit fisher is gone.

Hartlett has been playing defense in the ressies hasn't shown nothing as a forward.


What about Austin? Look Stevens would do more across HF than Fish and thats saying something. Glad Joey gets another gig, Hartlett very unlucky ...surely this guy deserved another game...what does Fisher offer that Harlett does not??? Bewildering to say the least. And then there's Bentley... :roll:


From what i have seen of the two's and Carlton Fisher is a better option that HArtlett as a fwd. I wouldnt have minded seeing carlos come in for fisher but not the 2 you mentioned.

Good to get a good look at Bentley why we can. He will be back on the rookie list soon. Could find a player or could find a rookie spot available at the end of the season.

Their team still looks very good on paper. I hope we are in the right frame of mind and play hard but fair and get on top of these suckers. We play well at Colonial so i reckon we are a chance.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:54 pm 
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The selections actually make sense.

Yarran hasn't come in for Garlett, he's come in for Armfield. He's named on a half-back flank and will play there. The selections clearly target footskills coming out of the backline, and given the criticism Armfield has received for his kicking - it's no surprise he's out. Scotland and Yarran have footskills.

And Hartlett is obviously the 6th choice defender. Waite, Thornton, Bower, Jamo, Austin, Hartlett.
Depending on match-ups and injuries they choose 3-4 of them a week. This week they are going to go with 3 talls, and have chosen the three highest ranked defenders. They clearly think of Austin as a defender, and I don't think he's done anything in particular to say he's a certain selection the minute he's available. The last game he played he was solid, but gave away a goal and got rubbed out. He's got to learn that isn't the way to go about things.

And Stevens is a midfielder. Not a forward. If he didn't do enough on the track to be included in the midfield rotations then so be it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:01 pm 
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I hope McVeigh & Jolly don't celebrate their birthdays again

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:13 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
I am yet to be impressed with YARAN.. as a top draft pick, he has shown us nothing so far...just bits and peices of some Magic moments and silky skills but nothing else.....


He seems to be too lazy to chase all day and often goes missing for a long period....Gartlett is ahead of him in every department....I hope he picks up and plays a good game...


What has Garlett done that is so special? He is dropped every third game as he lacks impact at this stage of his career, can't compete against big bodies and lacks the fitness to play anymore than 55-65% of the game.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:20 pm 
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..disagree, i reckon Garlett has definately added defensive pressure, assists and chimes in with a goal here and there, for a 1st yr skinny rookie i reckon he has had an impact.. ..he also allows Betts to spend a bit of time in the center square which definately adds impact as well..

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:32 pm 
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..disagree, i reckon Garlett has definately added defensive pressure, assists and chimes in with a goal here and there, for a 1st yr skinny rookie i reckon he has had an impact.. ..he also allows Betts to spend a bit of time in the center square which definately adds impact as well..


Agree with you all the way there kahuna he also doesnt mind taking the game on and playing to his strengths which are pace and agility! His foot skills arent 2 bad either.
Needs a few steaks here and there and tonne of pasta but he'll be right!

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