Agree. Offers only one thing in that he can kick when in the clear...can someone give me one other aspect of the game that he brings to the table....Johnson ditto.... I would persist with Ando ahead of these guys any day ...anderson had a bad day but he plays with passion and puts his body on the line..needs to be given 1/100th the time that wiggins and cloke were given and I'm sure he will surprise a few.

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Chris Johnson had 93.75% disposal efficiency and 4 tackles. Pretty good effort.

Got your rod out fishing there have you?

So you're saying that three of Waite, Bower, Walker, Scotland, Austin and O'Hailpin are "are either not good enough to get a game or simply not good enough to play AFL" ....

... want to enlighten us with which are the 3??

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No ones mentioned Thornton.....I thought he had a good game down back.

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Johnson made one glaring error, apart from that, I was happy with his game. Ando looked all at see. Both players had a go, Johnson looked a lot cleaner and certain with his disposal. Ando pulled out badly from a marking contest in the 3rd qtr. That can be forgiven this time.

Dont take another persons opinion so personally mate... I said only 3 you would truly miss...i.e Walker Waite and Bower...have we missed Scotland the last couple of weeks??? And surely its too early to say that Austin and Carlos leave holes impossible to fill????

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Too many fundamental skill errors and too many errors in basic decision making to be a contender.

I saw Houlihan shepherd today. Dished off and stuck his arms out to hold off any blokes who might come and pressure the ball carrier. Why so upset you ask? He didn't turn his head and have a look; might as well have been doing a seagull impersonation as the Richmond player ran down his team mate from the front.

I don't like being negative after a win, and one where Fev and Judd played a pearler, but this was only a forward stride in terms of the four points, and the form of a few rather than many.

We cannot play another game with Johnson, Anderson and Hartlett in defence at the same time. Too much inexperience in defence. Anderson should have released Johnson into a more attacking position, and Hartlett was needed up forward with Carlos out.

To his credit Harts actually surprised me in defence but he still plays the contested ball like a forward; tries to seize every opportunity rather than play the percentages. Went to ground a lot and repeatedly showed many a defensive lapse, particularly with marking his man.

Adapting to the weather conditions, shepherds, knock-ons, planting your feet when making tackles, setting up your numbers at the contest, standing goal side of your opponent, the list of fundamentals goes on. We struggle at all of these. They need work; they need it now.

Handballing into traffic with no real plan behind it is a concern; ignoring free players out wide in acres of space because they're inexperienced is a concern. These aren't fundamentals but they also need work, especially considering that they are essential to our game style.

I'm glad we're going up the corridor more, but our boys need a serious working over on the mental side of the game. Today's effort wouldn't be much chop against half the competition at least.

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tend to agree, i think johnson is a more than handy footyballer, and is far from a shocking user of the ball.
really, the only players i thought had stinkers where houlihan, fisher, simpson and to a lesser extent garlett (just a couple small things he did at times)
simpson you can excuse, no problem having a bad game every now and then, and the last few weeks especiall he has been good.
fisher, had a stinker, and with the immergence of big irish as a marking option, and if warnock develops as hoped and kruze can push forward i think we will see less and less of fisher. great mark, bt can struggle to keep his feet and his kicking isnt great.
houlihan, probably and should be the most skillful in the side, however the last few weeks he has just been poo. needs to be dropped IMO.
garlett, just a couple times, pulled and when he needed to go, now before people jump up and down, no issue with that, no issue with any kid doing that, but if his form warrents it and he is able to play, i wouldnt mind seeing robbo come in for garlett

on a plus side, i thought Harlett did well in the absence of Austin. I think Austin is our future, but after that performance, there is no need to drop Harlett and bring in Austin., If anything this could be a good lesson for Austin. Learn not to do anything stupid and you will keep yo place. do something stupid (which he did) and you can lose your spot and with harlett performing well i see no reason for Austin to come back in.

Setanta to come back in and replace Fisher
Robinson to come back in replace Garlett
Scotland/Stevens to come back into replace Houlihan. I would probabl lead more towards Scotland to be honest. I dont think he is as bad defensively as stevens is.

other than, uness for injury think all other players did enough to keep their spots.

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

We certainly missed Scotland and O'hAilpin today.

Nothing personal ... playing the average post not you JATK.

Our backline today was pretty much a Bullants backline not so long ago: Hartlett, Andersen, Johnson, Armfield, JR.

The side really felt the loss of these 3 today:
* Scotland: experience, skillful and calm head down back
* Austin: really starting to show why we've stuck with him, we were all at sea down back today
* Carlos: who's filled the CHF role to perfection lately, offers a target, can take a contested mark and kick a goal

... the fact that players like Fisher, Bentley, Army, Hartlett and Andersen are filling the shoes of these 3 really answers your questions.

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What did people think of Armfield today?

I think he needs to be dropped but of course that's just my opinion.

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As i said in an earlier post, I thought he ran around like a headless chook, playing on Cousins wasnt he?

Great match, some UNBELIEVABLY good goals, great pressure and great tackles.


Thoroughly enjoyed the match and was on the edge of my seat until the final siren. Yes there were skill errors, yes there was a swirling wind - but I defy anyone to point out three better goals in one match than:-


1) garlett sprinting down wing sets up fev who ducks under the tackle
2) fev's no look twist and turn shot in 2nd quarter
3) the scissor kick over his head goal.


Three great goals...
Still need other avenues to goal - so looking forward to Sentanta coming back. Eddie and Garlett are great down there too. They add a lot in terms of pressure and run.

Would be happy if he played a team-oriented role week in week out instead of having to be the "main man" and putting our other forward options in the hands of the trainers.

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The question now is can we win 3 in a row. Bring on Sydney.

Richmond weren't exactly at full strength either...so not sure what ur on about. If our backline was a bullants standard backline then you would have to concede that their forward line was a Cobrug Tigers standard one....so its all square.

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It's not looking good atm..

Brisbane 10. 7. 67
Geelong 6. 5. 41

Might have to settle for 7th again.

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Walked away after a win saying "Flower me, we are shite".

yeh but you always say that

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

So who won ? Reading half the negative posts here one would think we got smashed.

Sure it wasn't pretty, sure our last quarter we looked tired, but FFS people....we won !

Carlton are in the 8. We were missing half our defence & a CHF. And we won !

Love the positive vibes....I wonder if the players pick up on them....

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