***Big BUMP!!***

it was actually mentioned during the coverage that we have one of the better kickout 'strategies'/success rates (ie in terms of % of kickouts converted to goals.

and in the freo game it was commented how well we setup from the boundary throwins to shark the opposition ruckman

Having a look at the Prospectus it indicates that Simpson, Houlihan and Scotland (in decreasing order) took most of the kick ins last year and were ranked #1 for percentage of kickins resulting in goals. Can't find this year's stats anywhere.

are you guys serious? From what i see we are one of the worst teams at kickouts.

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We're still bloody awful at defending them when the opposition turn the heat up.

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Yeah! How dare we let stats and facts into the debate!! We're much better off sticking to gut feel.

The deterioration in kickouts this year has been deplorable, and is a big negative for the coaches in my opinion.

Our kickouts:

These started off well in the first 2 rounds. Then the wheels fell off and we became the 7-point-play specialists because our plan is too predictable.

A short 15-20m kick to either pocket. Followed by player standing with ball having no clue. Followed by long bomb up the line to half back with the best result being a throw in.

I think the intended plan was to "switch back" - in other words, once in the left pocket, the player should kick to space in the right pocket and we take the ball up the right wing.

This worked for 2 rounds but then the opposition blocked the switch and we have had NO ANSWER FOR 2 MONTHS!

Damning. And there have been way too many 7 or 8 point plays againsgt us as a result.

Oppostion kickouts

We seem to set up in a 3-4-5 zone. But for some reason there have been way too many uncontested marks taken by our opponents at 50-60 metres - and then they're off. Maybe our zone was too thin at this range.

Either way it has been infuriating to watch teams waltz out of our 50 when we can't even string two possesions from a kickout.

Against Freo in the second half (and it was a TV game so I must admit analysis is difficult) it looked like we tried to press and cluster one side of the ground, with some success.



Either way, at both ends of the ground it has appeared that our strategies for these basic set play situations are deficient. I hope we saw an attempt to change part of it on Sunday.

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Ridiculously high number, infuriating.

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If it is a 3-4-5 zone, might be worth looking at a high 3-5-4 so that the 50 arc is better covered and promotes the short kick for the opposition. This would then allow for a quick roll back into midfield.

I think our guys wide in the deep section of the zone have been a bit too far away from the boundary. We should have them positioned a bit wider, entice the straighter long if that option is selected, then we'll have at least two or three of our blokes closing on the kick.

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We should kick to Fev

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Our defending from the kickouts was greatly improved on the weekend.

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There were still plenty of times where the kicker released a bloke well beyond the 50 arc out wide.

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I find that very hard to believe...of course I'm a little short sighted so maybe I'm seeing things

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Nah your sight is fine. You are just seeing with a tainted mind that cant see whats really happening

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So ur happy with our technique this year when kicking out?

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I think it is a work in progress and is constantly improving, as indicated by DUC's post...did you see that?

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Nah, dont take much notice of DUC...

But seriously this has been a problem for quite a long time and we dont seem to be improving at all IMO.

We do not take advantage of the rule which allows you to bring the ball in quickly. I'm not sure how you woud describe kicking to contests repeatedly due to setting up too slow after kick ins ...but I might call that not having a clear plan or setup.

Again I may be wrong but based on our continuing problems with kickins and the many turnovers which have lead to goals scored against us when attempting to kick out...you would have to say that if it is a work in progress then the guys working on it may need looking at as well...unless of course they are a work in progress as well..

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Everything is a work in progress. I remind you of 4th's little bit of info

quote it was actually mentioned during the coverage that we have one of the better kickout 'strategies'/success rates (ie in terms of % of kickouts converted to goals.

and in the freo game it was commented how well we setup from the boundary throwins to shark the opposition ruckman

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How rude.

What post did I post and what did I say?

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