I don't trust this group with 'probably' wins just yet... We've lost too many of these types of games the last few years to start counting our chickens...

Final 8

St Kilda
Geelong
Bulldogs
Collingwood
Adelaide
Carlton
Brisbane
Port Adelaide
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Sydney
Essendon*
Hawthorn
West Coast
Fremantle
Nth Melbourne
Richmond
Melbourne


FINALS Week 1

Adelaide V Port Adelaide (Adelaide Win)
Carlton V Brisbane (Carlton Win)

St Kilda V Collingwood (St Kilda Win)
Geelong V Bulldogs (Geelong Win)

FINALS Week 2

Collingwood V Adelaide (Collingwood Win)
Bulldogs V Carlton (Carlton Win)

FINALS Week 3

St KIlda V Carlton (Carlton Win)
Geelong V Collingwood (Collingwood Win)

GRAND FINAL

Carlton V Collingwood (Carlton Win)

We can only dream....

2009 we'll be something. We're coming

2010 -2012 we'll be a force. It's on the cards

Hawthorn - no chance

Sydney - here's a chance. Looking shaky and have an aging list.

North - if they play like they did against us they will struggle. It was mentioned in the call they have lost a heap of goals through Thompson and Grant which they will have to replace.

So at this stage, Sydney, Adelaide and North look like the teams most likely to fall with St Kilda a bit of a wildcard.

Thus, up to 4 clubs can move on in in 2009. You'd say Melbourne are no chance. Freo are crap, have a crap coach and would be long shots at best, yet in 2007 they made the grade. West Coast reckon they're finals bound in 2009 but they lack depth and experience. Brisbane are a bit one dimensional and will struggle away from the Gabba. Port are squibs.

That leaves us, Essendon*, and Richmond. A psychic on new years day reckoned Carlton and Essendon* would be the big improvers in 2009.

I heard somewhere that a team has come from outside the 8 one year to top 4 the next, something like 10 out of the past 11 years.

Richmond look less likely than they did perhaps last year?

Essendon* are quick, but they may suffer burnout come season's end.

So our odds are quite good if we play to the top of our game. I think we can move past Sydney and Adelaide and possibly North in 2009. Top 4 isn't out of the equation, though it will be tough.

Well, recently Brisbane looked like they'd be the team to come from outside the 8 into the top 4, but then blew it against Essendon*.

Hawthorn have been the biggest flop this century. Hopeless.

North have stuggled as predicted, as have Sydney though they are still an outside chance of making it.

Adelaide started poorly but have got themselves together and done pretty well in 09.

So it has been Hawthorn, Sydney and North the three to drop out, for Carlton and Brisbane, and at this stage Essendon*.

When I was 31 (Oct 2005) I wrote this on TalkingCarlton:

2006 will be a good year for travelling. Go and see the Pyramids. Or the Great Wall of China. Forget wins. Yup

2007 will be an improvement. Hmm...not really

2008 will bring hope. Shit yeah

2009 we'll be something. We're coming

2010 -2012 we'll be a force. It's on the cards

If we're to move over the threshold in 2009 we need to shove another side out of the eight. So who will it be?

Hawthorn - no chance

Geelong - ditto. Can't believe they only lost two games last year

Bulldogs - only if they have major injury concerns

Sydney - here's a chance. Looking shaky and have an aging list. I hope we beat them sensless in Sydney.

Adelaide - another who look to be on the decline. A definite chance to fall.

Collingwood - look pretty good early. They're usually there about.

St Kilda - If they fire on all cylinders they are top 8 material. Sometimes they misfire though. A moderate chance of falling, but just as likely to be in the 8.

North - if they play like they did against us they will struggle. It was mentioned in the call they have lost a heap of goals through Thompson and Grant which they will have to replace.

So at this stage, Sydney, Adelaide and North look like the teams most likely to fall with St Kilda a bit of a wildcard.

Thus, up to 4 clubs can move on in in 2009. You'd say Melbourne are no chance. Freo are crap, have a crap coach and would be long shots at best, yet in 2007 they made the grade. West Coast reckon they're finals bound in 2009 but they lack depth and experience. Brisbane are a bit one dimensional and will struggle away from the Gabba. Port are squibs.

That leaves us, Essendon*, and Richmond. A psychic on new years day reckoned Carlton and Essendon* would be the big improvers in 2009.

I heard somewhere that a team has come from outside the 8 one year to top 4 the next, something like 10 out of the past 11 years.

Richmond look less likely than they did perhaps last year?

Essendon* are quick, but they may suffer burnout come season's end.

So our odds are quite good if we play to the top of our game. I think we can move past Sydney and Adelaide and possibly North in 2009. Top 4 isn't out of the equation, though it will be tough.

When I was 31 (Oct 2005) I wrote this on TalkingCarlton:

2006 will be a good year for travelling. Go and see the Pyramids. Or the Great Wall of China. Forget wins. Yup

2007 will be an improvement. Hmm...not really

2008 will bring hope. Shit yeah

2009 we'll be something. We're coming

2010 -2012 we'll be a force. It's on the cards

If we're to move over the threshold in 2009 we need to shove another side out of the eight. So who will it be?

Hawthorn - no chance

Geelong - ditto. Can't believe they only lost two games last year

Bulldogs - only if they have major injury concerns

Sydney - here's a chance. Looking shaky and have an aging list. I hope we beat them sensless in Sydney.

Adelaide - another who look to be on the decline. A definite chance to fall.

Collingwood - look pretty good early. They're usually there about.

St Kilda - If they fire on all cylinders they are top 8 material. Sometimes they misfire though. A moderate chance of falling, but just as likely to be in the 8.

North - if they play like they did against us they will struggle. It was mentioned in the call they have lost a heap of goals through Thompson and Grant which they will have to replace.

So at this stage, Sydney, Adelaide and North look like the teams most likely to fall with St Kilda a bit of a wildcard.

Thus, up to 4 clubs can move on in in 2009. You'd say Melbourne are no chance. Freo are crap, have a crap coach and would be long shots at best, yet in 2007 they made the grade. West Coast reckon they're finals bound in 2009 but they lack depth and experience. Brisbane are a bit one dimensional and will struggle away from the Gabba. Port are squibs.

That leaves us, Essendon*, and Richmond. A psychic on new years day reckoned Carlton and Essendon* would be the big improvers in 2009.

I heard somewhere that a team has come from outside the 8 one year to top 4 the next, something like 10 out of the past 11 years.

Richmond look less likely than they did perhaps last year?

Essendon* are quick, but they may suffer burnout come season's end.

So our odds are quite good if we play to the top of our game. I think we can move past Sydney and Adelaide and possibly North in 2009. Top 4 isn't out of the equation, though it will be tough.