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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:20 pm 
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From what I understand re Scotto's omission relates to an incident on Friday night when Lovett came off the ground and AJ went to follow but stopped as he hadn't been told by a runner to come off.

He hesitated a bit and 3 Scum players started pushing a shoving him whilst he was on the ground and Scotto was only a few feet away and did nothing. Just watched what was happening and did nothing to help the kid out.

Apparently Ratts was ropeable.

This happened in the game, so if anyone saw it then you might be able to confirm what took place.

But from what I have been told, that is why Scotland was dropped.

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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:34 pm 
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Heath Scotland has been Carlton's best defender over the last three years Kerhahan&Ratten dropped him.They have no idea did anyone see his miralculous smother and recovery in the first half agaist Essendon*.Are we playing for draft picks again?
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You can't be serious. Scotland does many things well, but he's one of the least defensively minded players on our list, irrespective of where he lines up on the field.


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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:06 pm 
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DownUnderChick wrote:
From what I understand re Scotto's omission relates to an incident on Friday night when Lovett came off the ground and AJ went to follow but stopped as he hadn't been told by a runner to come off.

He hesitated a bit and 3 Scum players started pushing a shoving him whilst he was on the ground and Scotto was only a few feet away and did nothing. Just watched what was happening and did nothing to help the kid out.

Apparently Ratts was ropeable.

This happened in the game, so if anyone saw it then you might be able to confirm what took place.

But from what I have been told, that is why Scotland was dropped.


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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:56 pm 
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Scotland is without doubt Carlton's second best hard ball get player after Judd.
Kenarhan& Ratten haven't used him enough in defence.
Jordan Russell name keeps coming up he is clearly a very favoured son of Kernahan and Ratten not in the same league as Scotland.
Stevens a very talented player on his day deserved to dropped as did Fev its a tradgedy for the Blues that Scotland has been left out of this team.
Kerhahan and Ratten want to look like they are doing something after Carltons very dismal performance in the second half against Essendon*.
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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:23 am 
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DownUnderChick wrote:
From what I understand re Scotto's omission relates to an incident on Friday night when Lovett came off the ground and AJ went to follow but stopped as he hadn't been told by a runner to come off.

He hesitated a bit and 3 Scum players started pushing a shoving him whilst he was on the ground and Scotto was only a few feet away and did nothing. Just watched what was happening and did nothing to help the kid out.

Apparently Ratts was ropeable.

This happened in the game, so if anyone saw it then you might be able to confirm what took place.

But from what I have been told, that is why Scotland was dropped.


Dropping Scotland might have been threapeutic for Ratten they should arrange some therapy for Ratten that is not such a disaster for the Carlton Footy team.
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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:36 am 
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nightcrawler wrote:
anthopides wrote:
Heath Scotland has been Carlton's best defender over the last three years Kerhahan&Ratten dropped him.They have no idea did anyone see his miralculous smother and recovery in the first half agaist Essendon*.Are we playing for draft picks again?
Anthopidies



You can't be serious. Scotland does many things well, but he's one of the least defensively minded players on our list, irrespective of where he lines up on the field.



Carlton's defence is brittle especially with the loss of Bower I hope autumn leaves Thorton stays on his feet.
Scotland is a ball magnate he mops up in defence time and again he would be in the first players I would pick after Judd Betts Murphy Kreuzer Gibbs Simpson and Waite (if he was fit)
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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:36 am 
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maybe heath should have flown the flag for his rookie team mate

(if the story is true)

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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:38 am 
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anthopides wrote:
Scotland is a ball magnate
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There would be more demand for shipping or minerals I would have thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:57 am 
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DownUnderChick wrote:
From what I understand re Scotto's omission relates to an incident on Friday night when Lovett came off the ground and AJ went to follow but stopped as he hadn't been told by a runner to come off.

He hesitated a bit and 3 Scum players started pushing a shoving him whilst he was on the ground and Scotto was only a few feet away and did nothing. Just watched what was happening and did nothing to help the kid out.

Apparently Ratts was ropeable.

This happened in the game, so if anyone saw it then you might be able to confirm what took place.

But from what I have been told, that is why Scotland was dropped.



Well if that's the case, I'll buy it.


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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:08 pm 
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Remember when everyone here were going off thier nuts over Yarran being dropped and then a few days later they found out he was at a funeral in WA.

When someone is dropped there could be a number of reasons for it. I trust Ratts and MC are doing what they think is best for the team/club.

The story above if true sounds like a good reason to send a message to Heath.


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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:57 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Remember when everyone here were going off thier nuts over Yarran being dropped and then a few days later they found out he was at a funeral in WA.

When someone is dropped there could be a number of reasons for it. I trust Ratts and MC are doing what they think is best for the team/club.

The story above if true sounds like a good reason to send a message to Heath.


at this stage of his career comparing Yarram to Scotland is difficult to follow.
Scotlands dropping means Carlton lose to Fremantle we just dont have enough good tough players thanks To Kernahan and Rattens influence.Your faith in the socalled match commitee is illfounded


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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:10 pm 
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Hi Heath!

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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:18 pm 
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anthopides wrote:
club29 wrote:
Remember when everyone here were going off thier nuts over Yarran being dropped and then a few days later they found out he was at a funeral in WA.

When someone is dropped there could be a number of reasons for it. I trust Ratts and MC are doing what they think is best for the team/club.

The story above if true sounds like a good reason to send a message to Heath.


at this stage of his career comparing Yarram to Scotland is difficult to follow.
Scotlands dropping means Carlton lose to Fremantle we just dont have enough good tough players thanks To Kernahan and Rattens influence.Your faith in the socalled match commitee is illfounded


I think you missed the point there Anth. Also we get the point that you think Kernahan has a massive influence on Ratts' decisions as coach.


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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:32 pm 
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Megaman wrote:
Hi Heath!


:lol: thought the same thing

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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:46 pm 
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if Scotland is not brought back in straight away next week, he will seriously walk out on the club by the end of the year and any of the 16 Clubs will be begging to take him, including his former club...


I just can't believe how a coach can dump a senior player who has guts and puts his body on the line because he was pissed off at him from a previous game... unbelievable...


Scotland hasnt been on fire nor has he been the best on field this year, but he is a proven player and Ratts can go practice authority over someone else... Scotland has nothing to prove to Carlton... we picked him as a recycled player and expected him to be wasted within a year, and he proved us all Wrong.....

people forget that he is had a surgery this year... For God's sake he is a top midfielder... i still can't believe his run and dash will not be present tomorrow....


lets see how Russell and Bentley will be running and setting up inside 50's attacks....


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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:33 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
lets see how Russell and Bentley will be running and setting up inside 50's attacks....


Except that won't be their jobs, so no point looking to that.

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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:43 am 
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DownUnderChick wrote:
From what I understand re Scotto's omission relates to an incident on Friday night when Lovett came off the ground and AJ went to follow but stopped as he hadn't been told by a runner to come off.

He hesitated a bit and 3 Scum players started pushing a shoving him whilst he was on the ground and Scotto was only a few feet away and did nothing. Just watched what was happening and did nothing to help the kid out.

Apparently Ratts was ropeable.

This happened in the game, so if anyone saw it then you might be able to confirm what took place.

But from what I have been told, that is why Scotland was dropped.


Thanks DUC, provides a motive ... if not in itself a droppable offence IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:51 am 
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I didn't see anyone put up a fight in the second half.

Why not drop the entire team?


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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:55 am 
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Let's not crucify Scotto based on rumour, eh!?

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 Post subject: Re: Heath Scotland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:12 pm 
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How many times has Fev not complied with team acts/structures? Ratten has proven nothing by dropping Scotland....or Browne. Stand up to Fev and you'll show us you have the right stuff.

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