I believe we will win this week but i still think that we're not moving forward as a developing team. like i said the only difference is NOW we have Judd who makes us a 5 goal better team then 2 years ago so we're bound to win games here and there.

[/quote]I believe we will win this week but i still think that we're not moving forward as a developing team. like i said the only difference is NOW we have Judd who makes us a 5 goal better team then 2 years ago so we're bound to win games here and there.[/quote]

I agree and I'm not sold on us winning this week.

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Fortunately my qualifications dont count match day... the problem is the guy who should be qualified isnt.. and it reflects on the way we go about the game on match day....yes???

Cos by shining the spotlight on my observations is deflecting from what is happening out on the field of play.... dogs brekky yes???

yes???

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Your qualifications infact dount count at all, match day or not because Im forming the opinion that you dont have any at all...yes???

Ratten is qualified in all aspects I can identify although there may be some I dont know about....

Thats why he is coaching the football club and your sitting on a PC as an anonymous bagger,,,theres the diference in qulification right there

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Think Baz may be onto something on the execution/implementation. That's why someone like Scotland has been dropped due to:

* not sacrificing for teammates (blocks, shepherds etc)
* no impact (take him out of the team = no impact)
* doesn't hurt with disposal often enough (spoons ball in the air with kicks = no penetration, oversue of left foot)
* tackle count = plays with his nads > tackling opposition

Also this is a guy that often leads younger players astray. And we have finally made a stand and said enough's a enough.

Playing for each other and sacrificing goes a long way to success.... yes tactics and game plans play a part and the game has come on in leaps and bounds in terms of structures, plays and set ups. But it is still a continuous game that can be so unstructured at times, the bounce of the ball, a little slip because you didn't wear stops and in particular that instangibe called momentum. I think sometimes we can overplay the structures and santise the game too much.

Same goes with the process for choosing the coach. With Greg Swann at the helm (and he is really running the club in my book), I have complete confidence in the process they undertook (not to mention Dick was president at the time). There is still room for gut feel amid a process..... Brisbane Lions didn;t have an exhaustive process from where I sit. So many say our club is stuffed becasue we only bring in Carlton people, yet we have brought in Greg Swann, Chris Judd, Robert Harvey, Mark Riley and Brett Montogmery. So maybe we just might be on the righ path..... but it's a long journey. Think about we were as a club only 2 years ago.

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I remember McGuire flying over to Perth to wine and dine Mick Malthouse when he was coaching the Eagles......from what I was told.....there was no process.....they wanted Mick to coach the Pies.

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What you dont get is its not me that doesnt have them kicking out.. finding space into their forward line... being fluid with thew ball.. blocking shepherding.

Again youre deflecting .. the spotlight is not on me.. its on the underqualifued Ratten... thats who has that particular job.. thats who is being paid to do that particular job...
Thats who is failing to do that job.,..
Thats what you dont get...

Yes???

Or do you think im responsible for that job????

Yes???

No????

Wanna fifty fifty on it???

OR would you like to call a friend???

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Synbad accusing someone else of deflecting.

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How am i deflecting when Ratts is underperforming and im calling it?


By the way im white....choofing is bad for you...


Warby... Malthouse has a history of success.
Ratten was coaching out in the eastern suburbs league...

You cannot compare what Malthouse had in the bank as a VFL AFL coach to what Ratts had...

Apples and oranges...

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Thats a top post.

You're the king of deflection Synbad, and you know it.

I know you'll neither admit it, nor change though.

I just find it extremely funny that you're accusing someone of doing something you're the master of.

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Back to the topic please!

Thank you. Things were really getting out of hand there...

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Ok, you go back to what you do best....

But according to you im a deflector... cos Ratten cant get us to do the basics yes???

But thats where youre at....

anyway you leave the analysis to me......

Carlton needs to win this one.. and the next one... or the chatter gets louder..

And yes im the one deflecting.. cos this is about Rattens and our performance.. and bb and youre lurking self have a spotlight on me..

Love the attention when a couple of you have turned me responsible for whats going on out there...

But typical 'Ids'

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Yep. That part I said.

Please show me where I said any of the other things you've attributed to me.

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lets not hey ?

please keep it on topic which is ratten not being the man

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Didn't we do that with Pagan?

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Yes we did...and we all know how that went..which should have taught us that knee jerk decison making is not what its all about in this day and age...and Ratts's appointment seemed to have been knee jerk given no-one else other than Voss had been seriously considered.

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Bloody kettles are all plastic these days. The pot isn't black, it's blind.

If you were a thinker youd realise Malthouse was pached a decade ago... as a very succesful coah at the Doggies and then won a flag at WC..
So he proved he had the appetite and the accumen to coach succesfuly.
In the last decade footy has changed immensely... and Malthouse has done pretty well keeping up with the game changes... and in my opinion has extracted the most out of a very basic Collingwood club for a long time.
They are usually playing in the finals.. and have been a pretty succesful club under his tenure...without ultimate success.

How do you begin to compare what happened TEN YEARS AGO with Malthouse... and what he has done with that side that was where we were at when he took over.. to us going out and not having to poach Ratten at any club cos he was AFL unemployable... and then extend by 2 years a contract without having achieved anything...
Raatten should have been judged at around this time for any extention.....
..... sure he may have threatened to go coach at another club if he was unsecured ........................... but what are the chances another club would have hopped on Ratts today??

The guy hs never proven anything...

.... hee might still.. but its not looking good for him.
He is making statements on selection round 14.....thats how good hes going....

Plus right now hiss personal changes...without a gameplan he is re organising the deckchairs of the SS Ratten....

What he doesnt get is we look shit with an inspid Stevo ot Fevola...but in this MODERN GAME... its not about running through walls to win... thats all nice for us in the terraces cos we hate seeing inspidness... but the games are won on preparedness... and we are very unprepared for this game...

I harp back to the closed training sessions.. which kind of suggests Ratts thought he was onto something... and was tweaking...

Surely you wouldnt close intra club sessions when you cant zone.. cant play man on man.. cant kick... cant tackle.. cant find inside 50s.. cant kick out from defence.... as a matter of fact just on kicking out from points... its better if they just kick a goal... so we can start again from the centre.. instead of conceding a point.. then turning over the subsequent kick out and having 7 points kicked against us.. (Ratts should look at that tactic for the close games)

Cos really the closed sessions suggest either he thought he was a genius and we were goingt to tweak an unbelievable gameplan to be unleashed on the competition this year... OR..... he was really worried and embarassed...about where we were at...

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