The only problem with the culture at Carlton is Fevola. He is the one who thinks he is bigger than the team/club. His attitude is poison to our young group (who all apparently think he is a champion bloke). Carlton cannot win a flag with Fevola in the team. We need to accept that and move on.

Am I the only one that thinks Fevola's antics (and probably what was said in the rooms at half time) was a major factor in the dispirited and individualistic 2nd half performance last week. There are two standards being applied - one for Fevola - and one for the rest of the team. (Actually this is not surprising as the media also has a Fevola standard different from the rest eg. "great play by Fev there ... he chased" WTF!) How can the team not be dispirited when the coach does not hold Fevola to the same standard as them?

And that leads me to the next problem. It is becoming clear Ratten is out of his depth. Reactive and regularly outcoached ...... and clearly lacking the courage to make a stand for team discipline with his gun full forward (or just besotted?)

As for Stevens, I agree that this should probably be his last season but I will always be grateful for the fantastic service he has given the club thru our darkest period .... there were times when he carried the team ..... I think it is clear that since his neck injury he is not the same player .... it was very nearly career ending (even life threatening) injury and that must shake your confidence to put yourself at risk again in unprotected situations. Who knows, he may even be under instruction not to put himself at risk. I am sure his teammates appreciate his situation and it saddens me to see the criticism he is cops now.

As for Sticks as president, I agree that the Ratten extension was hasty and it now appears ill advised, but are people seriously suggesting that our greatest on field leader of the modern era is setting the wrong cultural tone. Come on.

So ..... trade Fev to Swans for O'Keefe (did he sign for more than one year?) ..... making my fantasy forward line next year: Betts, Kreuzer, Garlett; Yarran, Waite, Okeefe/Higgins; (with camoes from Hammer and maybe even Setanta)

Time to move forward.

Our culture is good when we win but bad when we lose.

Are you talking about the club or TC?

To say the culture is not right after a bad loss is a " sky is falling " mentality. Unfortunately some will whinge about our coaches, players and President right up until the day we win our 17th flag.

Me, I'll just enjoy the ride and the hiccups along the way