Yeah, but we still dont look like the better team alot of the time... (Youre talking about a 1/4 here and there ).. games are won over 4 /4s..

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..we have no kick-out strategy and that infuriates me no end..!!.. ..we're too dumb to even copy other team's kick-out plans.. ..it's beyond a joke.. .... ..we definately lack run.. ..as for Edwardo, as good as he is, he's only ever gonna be good unless we can address these problems, cos he should be great (and has the ability to be) but is being held back..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

St Kilda played two 10 minute patches of brilliant footy to out the game out of reach.

Brisbane had there entire back line missing, thats like us having Bower, Jammo and Waite out. There two key ruckman were also out, oh and Travis Johnston didn't play either.

You seem to forget the shitful performances against the crows, swans, Essendon* twice, freo and not to mention a Hawthorn team that was riddled with injury

You love making excuses for other teams underperforming, don't you?

You can only play the team which is lined up on the park on the day.

Did you give Carlton any respite due to injury over the dark years?

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No. We were just shit. No need for excuses

I'll pay that

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I think we actually had a good run with injury in most of our worst seasons

2002, anyone?

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The highlighted word was with 2002 in mind.

Fair enough.

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Must say Synbad has a point with the lack of blocking. Was wathcing this closely on Friday night to see if there was any help for Juddy.... nope, he just got mauled by Welsh (that's probably another topic in itself) and had no help. And I can't remember a shepherd being laid for a teammate.

Funny, Ratten played in a premiership in '95 where that team knew if they committed over 80 sacrificial acts they would win a game. Out of all the stats Ratts is pulling out I wonder what our average sacrificial act count is? BTW this is not necessarily reliant on gameplan, it is a creed.

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17 4 10

Correct. We had no good players that got injured

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So they were good, or no good?

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lads since TC started people have been complaining about our goal kicking. The only thing Ratten can do is with the light session before a match make it a requirement for each and every single midfielder and forward to have at least 20 shots at goal each from a varierty of angles. Practice Practice Practice. After that it's up to the players. In each of our losses this year we have had period in the game where we are dominating but let teams off the hook by kicking behinds instead of goals. If we can work on converting some of those changes then we can also get more wins from close games

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