If that's the message, then we are flowered as we are too indulgent with Fev if we are telling him this is his last chance.

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Just to add insult to injury Tayte Pears was named the NAB Rising Star this week


(even though Carrots had a good game)

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99 goals last season. Near 4 per game this year - on target for 80+ in '09.
Who are you kidding?

At least 4 teams would consider a pick 8/9/10 as a trade for him.

The Pies / Bulldogs could be a serious contender over the Saints / Cats the following year for some silverware. And then there's Sydney / Port / Adelaide who would seriously consider it.

Don't underestimate his value after a couple of spits... He's up there.

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Just because Carlton can't handle his sooking and what not, doesn't mean another club can't.

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Ill tell you what would happen... an unimaginative Ratten forward entry structure would mean Eddie would need to kick even more freak goals ...

I really dont understand people.

Fev is a lair... and he is immature.. but geez hes a bloody good footballer.
We have him but we dont know how to use him....

Youd wanna see coaching that understands how to get the most of out Fev and everybody else.
Not coaches who think ita all too hard.

Personally i dont think we have worked out how to get the most out of Juddy also.
Juddy does put in .. but were not playing him to his most effective either.

Pretty sure people will be saying "trade him " in 3 years time....

After all he is loose defensively.

But who is playing to their absolute best and most effective.

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Parkin- Pagan - Brittain Ratts and a host of assisatants cant get through to Fev's head but Synbad knows

If anything Fev has played his best football under Ratts and is averaging more goals under him than any of the other coaches that had him. Or is it Lappins influence ?????

But Ratts cant coach - Now if Knights was coaching him -10 goals a week minimum plus 50 odd tackles

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Yeah but hes the third highest golakicker of all time at Carlton...
(and according to you hes no good)


Been in a much better side too under Ratts than under Pagan....

Remember.. if Ratts drops Fev.. there goes half of Ratts gameplan...
Judd then becomes the whole of Rattens gameplan....

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Actually, he is likely to end up the highest goalkicker of all time at Carlton. Unlike Sticks and co he hasnt had the luxury of playing in teams that were more often than not in the top 4. It will be an amazing effort if he gets there.

If some of our supporters had their way this would never happen & we'd trade him for a pick in the 30's. Ludicrous.

I don't know the stats but I would think there would only be one player in the history of the game who has had the ball directed at him more than Fev and that would be Hudson

I guess any full forward who played for 10 years and had 65-75% of forward entries kicked at you . Then you would be a chance to be the third highest goal kicker at Carlton of all time

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re : Knights...did drop Lucas and made him wait and earn another chance and has got some rewards....

I wouldnt be dropping Fev..one of the few aces in the pack we have.....Ratten promised us a new forward structure with no more kick to Fev everytime and thats a double and triple teamed Fev everytime.
Now Fev is copping it after the caoch failed to deliver on the new structure...

If you are expected to kick six every week with three blokes hanging off you with zero help apart from a 5' nothing pocket player in Eddie Betts and have to put up with shite delivery I'd be cranky as well......and how long have we had the kick it to Fev gameplan.....too long....

Get a new game plan and get him some help.....good teams have multiple avenues to goal..we dont...

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I just cannot believe the player "bashings" that go on here after a loss by some "supporters". Its either black or white for some supporters with no grey area. But a week is a long time in football and many will be on the bandwagon again when we win our next game and Fev kicks a bag. Pathetic really but not suprising !

We are having a good season with four close losses apart from the embarressing debarcle against the Bombers and yet you would swear the world is coming to an end. Sack Ratts, was Juddy the right choice, sack or trade Fev etc.....A complete farce and over reaction !

We're trying to develop an alternative forward option in O'hAilpin, who's been impressive in recent weeks. He was in the form of his life when Fev decided he'd had enough and smashed him twice. Does Fev REALLY want to share the 50?

Assume we get right compensation, a win/win for all, that's what trades are about, isn't it?

You know what - I don't really care if he is the third highest goal kicker in Carlton's history/the 2nd highest or the 4th highest... does that matter when the big game is finals?


Again it comes back to individual rewards vs team rewards with Fev. As long as Fev is on the Footy Show larking about, as long as Fev kicks a few goals (it doesn't really matter what the team does in comparison), then all is right with the world - Fev's fantasy world that is.


I would be tempted to keep him in the team for one more week with CLEARLY defined roles. (Ask me tomorrow and I would say I would prefer he was dropped.) Even a dummy such as Fev will understand these roles.


1) if your direct opponent runs off you and sets up two forward 50 metre entries/shots at goal for them then you WILL be dropped the following week. There are no ifs, buts or maybes - dropped.



2) He will be used as a decoy forward. Fev to lead into pocket - midfielder running down wing signalling with body language etc to kick to Fev, but instead kick across body to fat side of ground where other forward targets are.



3) any gestures to team mates, hands in the air, body language, sulky, sulky stuff that destroys morale then he will be dropped the following week.



This should be put in writing and is non-discussionable. The team is greater than the "star"...

So Fev should have taken his 2-3 defenders elsewhere and helped create imbalances in our F50, not get jealous of someone else getting the ball and take him out...

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Fev will not be dropped..

The examples that have been brought up by Walls, Sheehan and co (Didak, Shaw, Dal Santo, etc) are all midfielders that can be replaced with a similar player. Lucas hardly counts as a footballer these days...

Take Fev out of our side in what is really a crunch game for us, is silly. I would much rather a stand be made against a Geelong or StKilda where we are less likely to win, if that makes sense..Win this week and we will more than likely be above Essendon* (hard to believe considering the negativity on this board) & a game and percentage ahead of 9th...Exactly where we thought we would be at the start of the season!!!

Q. When is a stand, not a stand?

A. When playing St Kilda or Geelong.

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It's Carlton wins that I want, I don't care how many goals Fevola kicks or doesn't kick. It should be "The Carlton Show" not "The Fevola Show" .

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Agreed to a certain degree DUC, but if you make enough noise about it, you can have the same effect.

If we were to drop him for the Cats game for example, we can do it during an early week press conference. We can announce to everyone that he is dropped due to not chasing, being selfish etc....

How would it look if we dropped him this week?? the football world would think that he was omitted due to his finger injury.

Also, i would hate to think that Rats & the MC can be easily swayed by the media...Yes the same ones that a fortnight ago had us in the top 4, yet now have us dropping out of the 8 after we lost to a fellow top 8 side, that has the wood on us!!

I am actually loving the bake the players are recieving this week, more so than what Hawthorn the reigning premiers are copping. If they have any pride we will thump an undermanned Freo and we can wait for Sheehan & co trumpet about how good we are and how Fev is the best FF in the business...

But what if he runs and tackles and kicks goals before the Cats game? How do we drop him then?

If we drop him this week, we tell the football world he was dropped because of bad form the game prior, which would be the truth.

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