Carrots virtually BOG @ Subi last year v W Coast. Short memory? In our best the other night. Has the scalps of Gilbee and Hodge already this year.

Hads was a liability in the G Coast game ( I was there, Melvs) and has hardly done enough in the Ants to warrant selection.
Hadley's 2009 has hardly been stellar. Way too slow for Subi.

No, he definitely wasn't joking.

Is he an extractor????? an extractor is a Sammy Mitchell, Simon Black, Jobe Watson type who wins the ball in close and handballs it out. Now is that Carrazzo? if so god help us

Of course he's an extractor. In his break out year in 2007 he played in the middle and fed out lots of the ball.

Only problem is when he chases uncontested possessions. He won't help the team if he's chasing easy kicks, especially with his disposal and lack of pace.

Get him feeding it out so we are less reliant on Judd getting first possession.

Let Judd run forward of the play at some stoppages.

On to the inclusions this week, why would you include Hadley?

Especially at Subiaco where his lack of pace will be exposed even more. Hasn't shown he can win effective clearances so why would you want him in the team? Extremely overated on TC, hasn't done anything to suggest he should stay on the list past this year.

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Carrazzo's role this year has been totally different to last year. Last year he was basically a back pocket player who predominatley got easy possessions in the back half of the ground. This year he has been used to negate some of the oppositions key playmakers and has been quite successful at it. What he has shown me is that he is capable of adapting to new roles. I personally think he has the physique and skills to be an extractor. I personally think we have too much of a negative mindset in our team.
If we are encouraged to take the one wood out against StKilda we should be encouraged to take the one wood out against everyone.

Did he ever. Eyes painted on, Melvs???

How confident are any of you of winning this game?
I'm not.

Herald Sun today has a start time of 5:10 local time and AFL site/ Fixtures has a 2:40 local time start. Has the start time of this game changed? Anyone know?

It might have changed because of the late start for the Cats/Saints game.

The AFL site still says 2.40pm WA time.

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WA still undecided on daylight savings, going the half in half out appraoch of 30mins!?!?!?!?!?!?

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I'd like to see Joseph get the job as the on ball extractor - as others have said, we have been too focussed on negating
our opponents key players. We couldn't get our hands on the ball in the ruck against Essendon*, and it killed us.

More time in the middle for Eddie as well, we go better whenever he is in there - let Garlett take his place in the forward line.

So I'd bring in Garlett for Stevens. Thornton for Bower.

GO BLUES

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Bower out 2 - 4 weeks. Fev also had surgery on his finger and club is hopeful he'll be right to play this week.

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..yep, Carrots definately needs to play in the guts.. ..he should start in the middle with Murphos and Juddles.. ..for some reason ppl like to have all the star players or popular names in the middle, but it's more about balance.. ..Carrots might not be fashionable enough for some, but i think he should be moved to the guts..

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According to Gerard Healy, whispers said that Stevens and Scotland may get dropped this week and Fev had a finger op on Saturday morning.

The MC have stated they don't especially like to take youngsters interstate... I'd be surprised if Both Stevens and Scotland were dropped...
I'd also anticipate few changes - it'll be seen as a chance to make up for last Friday.

B: Steven Browne, Michael Jamison, Jordan Bannister
HB: Bryce Gibbs, Bret Thornton, Dennis Armfield
C: Shaun Grigg, Andrew Carrazzo, Heath Scotland
HF: Ryan Houlihan, Mark Austin, Kade Simpson
F: Eddie Betts, Setanta O’hAilpin, Brad Fisher
Foll: Shaun Hampson, Marc Murphy, Chris Judd

I/C: Matthew Kreuzer, Nick Stevens, Aaron Joseph, Jeff Garlett

OUT: Bower (inj) Fevola (inj)
IN: Thornton, Garlett.

Bit of flexibility with the talls: Austin can go back if Freo go tall, push O'Hailpin to CHF and Fisher to FF, pop Garlett in the pocket.
I think Gibbsy still play better when he has a really specific role or opponent. I'd tell him to make Headland's life miserable for the day.
Brown to Solomon - Browny won't take Dean's shit.
Banno on Ballantyne - both are really just good WAFL/VFL players and they seem a good match-up.
The Key forwards will probably be a mix of Tarrant, McPharlin and Sandilands... and maybe Kepler Bradley if he's brought back in.
I'd back Thornton and Jamo on either of them, with possibly swingman support from Austin. The good thing about Freo is that they'll have to rob peter to pay paul and have blokes who have played most of the season down back pinch-hit up forward, like Tarrant and McPharlin.
Hill has gone off the boil too, as it's a long season and he's just a kid.
Joseph can play on Hasleby, and everyone else plays their own game, but if you don't let them run they have nothing, Freo.

Freo lined up like this on Saturday:

B: Greg Broughton, Antoni Grover, Scott Thornton
HB: Steven Dodd, Luke McPharlin, Paul Duffield
C: Nic Suban, Paul Hasleby, Garrick Ibbotson
HF: Stephen Hill, Matthew Pavlich, Andrew Foster
F: Hayden Ballantyne, Chris Tarrant, Dean Solomon
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Byron Schammer, David Mundy
I/C: Brett Peake, Matt de Boer, Clancee Pearce, Zachary Clarke
Emg: Clayton Hinkley, Des Headland, Kepler Bradley

In: Ballantyne, Clarke, Peake
Out: Adam Campbell, Kepler Bradley, Michael Walters

Headland played in the end, but I'm not sure who for. There's not much there for Freo. Take out Pav and Grover and replace them with... Bradley and Campbell? Their biggest advantage is still Sandilands, and they aren't doing a great job of using that advantage. Just remember to get goal-side of stoppages up forward and stop the set-plays.

If they drop either of Stevens or Scotland it'll have to be for a runner. Anderson may finally get a game.

On Saturday I was angry and wanted 6 players sacked.
Now that I've settled down my changes would be:

Out
- Houlihan
- Bannister
- Bower (inj)

In
- Ellard
- Garlett
- Thornton

I'd like to see Stevo dropped but with Robbo suspended and Yarran not playing well for the Ants we don't have a suitable replacement.
Hurry back Tex!

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Maybe Fev's finger injury will five Ratts the excuse he needs to rest/drop him for a game?

If Fev's less than 50 50 will Ratts have the guts to drop him, and maybe pick Hartlett?

Surely Houla has to be dropped before Scotland - We need runners over at Subi !!

I reckon we are pretty buggered from a coaching perspective if we need excuses (other than poor form) to drop any player.

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Agree. We are buggered in the coaching box.
We are also buggered in regard to the Presidency (=still no president)
We are also buggered for depth and injuries this week

So I think the excuse will give Ratts more courage to make the decision if he goes that way.
But if I had to put money on it, I would be on a debacle where Fev gets selected, has a shocker, doesn't look healthy, and we end up losing.

My preferred option would be to bring in yarran and hartlett, drop houla, and see if the team can lift and inspire us after such a cruddy week

If rumours are correct about Stevo, Scotland, Fev then I'm loving it.

Anyone remember the Geelong game pre-season? yes it was a pre-season game, BUT I remember it because we had no stars playing, we had a group of kids who hunted and took the game on wanting a spot come Round 1.

Plenty of people have said no Fev no options up forward. Well you give Harts a run at full-forward without Fev in the team and who knows how he will perform. What we do know is the players who come in will be playing at 100% to earn that spot for another game against Richmond.

When you have players fighting that hard, the younger fringe players in our team lift also, all of a sudden we have 22 contributors and give ourselves every chance of winning the game against a bogey side.

More like an easy way out - he should have been dropped outright

In fact, I will back the blues without Fev this weekend, as opposed to banking the opposition since the last Freo game (which paid $4.00 to Freo).

Kids, stand up, take your place in the team.

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