To me it was more of a 13-year olds first moustache

pro. we got the 4 points

con. last night's game only confirmed my suspician's about where we are..........9-11th in '09

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Sadly the pictures were removed but I notice some of their look alikes have raised there heads for a few 'yeah buts'. Like death and taxes they are inevitable.

The thing that disappoints is they could actually write their posts before the game is even played. I wouldn't matter is we won by 100 pts they would still be saying the same negative things due to some poor moments throughout the game.

We are not a great team we are a young struggling team on the way up in a very unforgiving competition where the slightest mental slip can have a huge effect. The ball is oval, the umps are confused and those playing the game make mistakes. Celebrate the positives for a change.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Question is does he offer more that other guys who consistently don't get picked or who have been in and out of the team (in Scotland, Houlihan, even Bannister, Fisher, Anderson, Setanta etc).

I know their different types of players, but I think all of them have at least some discernible strengths which I believe are stronger than that of any of Russell's (what are his supposed strengths anyway?)

Season defining win for sure !!!!

Pros
Bower
Fev back in form
Judd
Joseph

Cons

No system still

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I rest my case your Honor.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

If the comment had been made that it was, then your response would be justified...

Very ordinary game
Yep a win is a win but if we play like that next week it will be a loss
Positives for me are
Austin
Bower
Joseph
Gartlett
Browne
Hampson
kreuzer

but thank god we have Judd .He was a cut above anyone else on the field last night

Negative were the efforts of the usual in the second half
Houlihan
Stevens
and Russell for the whole game
But he will play on Sat night even if Ando gets 50 touches

And I know I am going to get crapped on again but Gibbs to me is a concern

Not enough intensity
too slow kicks way to short too often
not good overhead
opposition teams will eventually work out that he plays the corridor and will put a hard running opponent on him.
Embley ran him ragged in the third quarter. Gibbs tank will improve as he gets older. he has great vision but needs to work harder on his defensive game particularly hard running the other way. Not a star . Long way off it

You're obviously way too happy. Time to join the existential heroes and great sufferers of our boards

Looks like T-Bird for Brown. Held him in last qtr @ Gabba last year and also did well on him @ TD in first game this year. Carlos plan B.

Jamo has a great record v Bradshaw and it was only after he went down @ TD earlier this year that Bradshaw came roaring back with 4 (5?) goals (on Bower). Can his shoulders handle the constant punching though, which is the only doubt to this match up.

Physically, would not start with Aussie or Bower on these guys, but Jamo probs may leave MC with no option.

Cutting the supply the best way to handle these guys, the game will be won in the middle.

Pros:

- Austin - very solid game. He MUST play every game this season and given every chance to develop. Heaps of potential.
- Better game plan - we moved the ball a lot quicker and kicked more. It was great to see Judd set up Fev with 2 goals from 60 metre passes.
- Bower - our MOST IMPROVED player this season. Great one-on-one, reads the play well and disposal is improving.
- Joseph - 10 tackles and keeps doing the defensive stuff very well.
- Setanta - didn't get much of the ball but did great things when he had it. Defence is his position, not forward.
- Fisher - this guy's marking ability is UNBELIEVABLE.
- Hampson - best game he's played. Once Jacobs and Warnock we will have a plethora of ruck options and Kreuzer can play CHF.

Cons:
- Jamison - looks laconic and is playing injured. Le Cras killed him and is a future star of the comp - let's bloody get him down at Carlton!!
- Gibbs - I watched him very closely as he was my Dream Team captain. He is too much of a receiver and doesn't try hard enough to win his own ball. He was constantly walking and didn't run into the right spots.
- Stevens - won plenty of the ball but his disposal was shocking.
- Inaccuracy - we should have won by more than 60.

pros:
the win was good, ugly game though , thought they dragged us to there level
fisher was good , dont know how he wasnt in the team before cloke and wiggins
juddy, murph, kreuze always good
houlihan , cant believe some people on here, i was at the game and he was on wirra right, kicked 2 goals and applied defensive pressure to one of there best players when it counted in the first half. easily has the best skills in our side
setanta and garlett were lively which was great to see
fev kicking a few
love josephs game, bower was great in defense and has had a great month
stevens i thought was great aswell, even saw him put his head over the ball lol

cons:
the umpiring was a disgrace
no system at all
need to bury teams
jk playing for them , but still cant kick
now the 2 guys behind me on level 3 collingwood and geelong supporter talking non stop like they were on speed shut the flower up lol me and my bro had to move after i nearly threw a pie in there face , didnt want to waste the pie, fuking supercoach this and supercoach that, u idiots and bagging carlton players is a no no in my book especially at a carlton game

Pros
Austin played his best game yet.
AJ was great on Kerr
Fish was good
A win is a win, no matter how ugly it is

cons
I cant find when the replay is on...help anyone?

Quiet night in the Cazz house last night?

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Winston Churchill

AJ is the player we've been desperate for since Franchina finished up.

Can see him becoming a Sam Mitchellesque type midfielder.

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PROS

Setanta, Houla, Garlett and Fish all contributed well and kicked 7 goals btw them.
Fish in the first qtr was fantastic to watch kicking goals and marking. Deserves his spot for his marking and goals, but will be found out for pace against the top teams. Must kick goals to stay in team.
Setanta's mobility and kicking was fantastic. Great pressure and presence forward and back. Hit each contest with gusto. Belongs.
Houlihan is all class. My Rugby mates made those comments in the first qtr about him. Help set us up.
Garlett was the surprise selection and he certainly is AFL ready. Always in the game and contributes.
Really good first half (barring too many missed shots at goals).
Hammer-Kreuzer combo is evolving. Posters are starting to rate Hammer.
Bower has been in the best players 8 times out of 30 games and he's still a kid. AA.
Thornton was great. Aussie belongs
Judd, Murph, Simmo, Stevo cut them up.
AJ, Browne and Army were hard at the contest. Great stuff.
Enjoyed the umpires letting it go (although favoured WCE moreso)
Scotto, Grigg and Carrazzo to return next week.
Warnock and Walker to return in the second half.
Really enjoyed watching Ratts rotate the forwards to keep them fresh and keep the WCE guessing.
Fev is fantastic to watch.


CONS

Jamo...he's been out of form for 3 weeks now. I'm not interested in carrying him if he's out of form. His position is precarious imo (but as a pillar at FB he wont be dropped...but should be).
Russell has the physical attributes to play AFL. Needs to contribute more. Passenger imo.Needs spell in 2's
Waite missing.
It's going to be tougher for Anderson to get a gig in the near future. Hope he earns a spot
We are playing a more accountable and better team defensively (zone) next week.
Kick ins.
Missing easy shots at goal. Should have won by more.
Lapse in the 3rd Quarter.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

This point interests me Bondi. I'm not singling you out as I've read the same concerns from several posters.
I'd like to know who actually has effective kickouts. Looking at last weeks game, Carlton actually scored more from their kickouts than the Crows did. Yet the Crows are known as an experienced team who specialise in set plays.

I think you'll find supporters from all clubs share a similar frustration. We're no worse off than the majority.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

A couple of us at the game last night were saying exactly the same thing.

Pros
The usual suspects
Hammer getting better every game. Would love to see him belt the ball forward 30-40 metres on the odd occasion (because he appears capable and also keeps the opposition guessing). Looking forward to the day when he demands the ball and when our guys have the confidence to kick to him. It might open up a more direct path to goal.

Cons
Still a bit slow in kicking the ball out after a point.
Still a bit slow in stopping the opposition running out of defense after we kick a point.

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Its not so much the first possession after the kick out from a point (which is invariably short to the pocket) its from here - we just dont seem to have a clue where to go from there.

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Winston Churchill

Pros

Judd, Murphy, Simpson all brilliant games
Fev-hope he's back for good
Kruezer
Austin (how cute is he?)
Garlett- great overhead mark and ahead of Yarran at this stage
Thornton
Joseph-hope the rising star panel took notice of this game
Bower, having a really good season
Etihad stadium-silver members got our reserved bays again

Cons
Jordan Russell
Kicking for goal
Kicking out from goal
Umpires-some poor non decisions and some baffling decisions