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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:26 am 
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Pleased with the form of Fisher, Setanta and Aussie. I think with these three we have just about covered Waitey.

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:27 am 
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Pros

Jeffrey :donk: . For me he was THE pro of the night, and he looked very comfortable in the midfield too. So instinctive, and lovely kicks inside 50 a few times. Watch this space.

Aussie really showed something. Maybe the absence of Waite may have a silver lining, as he will hopefully play the rest of the year.

AJ just getting better and better, he's like Franchina on speed. Every team needs a class tagger and he's quickly become ours.

Murph - just classy all night, and now in the elite class.

Juddy, great second half, Fev kept persisting and got the rewards, and Bower yet another good game (safe to say he's arrived ?).

Hammer - starting to look like an AFL player. Did some great things, but that shot from 30.... :roll:

Cons

Fev should have kicked 9 and what the flower does he need to do to get a free, when at the other end they pay em for nothing !!

Should be 7-3 minimum, and not 5-5.


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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:31 am 
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Pros -
We look better with Fisher as Second option
Judd running forward was outstanding
Nick Stevens - does anyone cover the ground that he does?
Denis Cometti - After the game Fev was interviewed by Watson and he couldn't stop fidgeting with his package. Cometti, as smooth as silk, says "Nice to see that Fev has Found some touch"

Con's -
The ugly bloke in the crowd who was sitting in front of Twigs

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:43 am 
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Pro: Camera showed Juddy getting his shoulder straps taken off after the game, and Bruce says "Gee I get excited when I see that".


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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:56 am 
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PROS
Austin is becoming increasingly poised and comfortable at AFL level.
Kruezer, Hampson nullified the impact of Cox. Setanta also helped in the area. The combo worked well tonight. I have major love for Krooz, he is already playing like a ten year player.
Fisher provided the additional marking target that we have been missing for the past few weeks.
Another great game by Bower, amazing to think that he has only played 30-something games.
Murphy bouncing back from last week. A star.
Thornton solid, reliable again.

CONS
Poor goal conversion.
Who care we won!


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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:52 am 
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Pros:

4 points added the the season's tally. :clap:
The Captain - probably easier just to say when he's not sensational.
AJ - what a stellar effort. Wore Kerr like a spandex suit and was a tackling machine. Kerr got a fair bit of it but had no room or time. And when compared to Judd's disposal and run, AJ's effect is even more apparent.
Fisher - A great return. Gave us another threat up forward.
Austin - Coming on in leaps and bounds. If he keeps improving at this rate soon those bounds will be over tall buildings.
The ruck - Kept Cox from working us over. And some of Hampson and Krooze's run was great.
Murphy - Just oozes class. Love seeing the ball in his hands as he just does the right thing over and over again, and so well.

Cons:
Our kick ins.
Our defence against small forwards.

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
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Garlett really excites me. He just lacks that belief that he can really be a top footballer but he works so hard and has so much courage for such a skinny kid.

I was super-impressed by Browne's mark and goal.

Austin was also fantastic.

Great to see the Fish back.



Cons:

I thought Jamo was a bit poo today.
The umpiring was a disgrace.
Fev's yips.
Kerr - what a dirty little sniper.


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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:35 am 
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PRO:
- We won and back in the 8 where we belong!
- Garlett got rid of his pimp-looking moustache!! :grin: :grin:

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
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Rookie List ......Betts, Thornton, Garlett, AJ, Carrazzo (although MIA tonight). :clap:

Like Danny, I flowering love AJ.


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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
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Pros- I have a 100% win/ loss record this year to the games I've attended. Including the pre season Nab matches every game I have attended have been all the Carltons wins!

Cons- Unless someone wants to shout me a flight to Brisbane we probably won't win next week lol



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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:43 am 
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Pros
- Judd, Murph, Stevo, Bower, Simmo and Fev.
- Hampson showing he has a bright future and keeps improving. Him & Kreuze will be a fantastic combo in a couple of years time.
- ditto Austin and Browne.
- AJ suffocating Kerr.
- Garlett doing some nice things.
- glad to see Houla back in the side.
- plenty of depth with Grigg, Walker, Scotland and Warnock still to come back.

Cons
- Robbo didn't have the best night but then again he has plenty of time up his sleeve.
- 3rd qtr fadeout similar to the Brisbane match in Round 2....luckily West Coast didn't have the class to make us pay.

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
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Pro Those two kicks of Setanta's that resulted in goals - especially his kick to Fev's advantage (actually did Fev kick that goal or miss?). But I think people can stop belting on about how Carlos can't kick or doesn't have a brain - his decision making is on a par with most players in our side and ahead of quite a few.

Con - is Jammo's shoulders okay - he just didn't seem to be able to punch.

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:05 am 
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On another note.. watching Fevs kicking tonight, when you watch the replay watch how much he turns his hips to the left when he kicks... he seems to be really pulling through the kick hard and hence missing on the left hand side.... he didn't move his hips as much last year...


That is a great observation.

I watched for this when watching the replay and you're right, he turns his body from right to left, which is the same way his kicks go so he either needs to correct that or start aiming to the left hand post more.

The other thing is I think he's leading to the wrong side of the ground. If he was on the natural side for a right footer he may not turn his body as much.

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:39 am 
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Pros:
Loved the big Irishmans game, chased, harrassed, contested in the air, hit forward targets.
Joseph - wore Kerr like a wetsuit, great pressure, tackling and even dropped off Kerr once or twice to tackle someone else.
Austin - Has looked good in the Ants off half back for while, showed the same last night with the increased tempo, looking forward to watching him continue to develop.
Judd - several times we were struggling to clear and in swoops super Juddy and burst down the CENTRE with the ball and delivers.
Hammer and Kruezer - cant believe some media commentators were giving Cox votes last night - i thought these two did a great job nullifiying him and making him accountable the other way. Only the missed shots a goal didnt quite ram it home
Brown - was very good around the congestion, hard as nails and has more speed than Hadley or Bentick.
Fish - handy return - kicked well

Cons:
kicking for goal in the 2nd quarter - should have been 10 goals + up at half time
Umpiring was terrible, just for something different. There were two different sets of rules being applied at either end of the ground. Actually three sets, i forgot about the rules that only seem to apply to Fev.
We didnt really put them away, should have been a victory like Richmond

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:48 am 
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pros:

- judd, seems to get his possessions out in space for once instead of being manhandled by 5 opposition players.
- Setanta.. a favourite of mine.. so maybe I'm being biased. Can we please leave him in the side for a few weeks and give him a go?
- Fev.
- Murphs
- Kruz
- AJ has exceeded my expectations.
- Hammer did really well and got his hands to a lot of the tap outs. just needs to hit them more to our advantage.
- fisher did well.

cons:

- McAvaney seems to have too much man love for Hammer... "What a unit", "what a specimen"... not that there is anything wrong with that. :smile:


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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:51 am 
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Pro

Another win and confidence for our young guys.

Another great night for AJs confidence. Really must be loving life at the minute.

Young Jeff Garlett buzzing around giving the opposition the jimmys always puts a smile on my dial.

Aussie Hammer and Kroooz also growing in confidence. Such important players for us going forward.


Con

Still knowhere near enough running to position and creating options and linking for one another. C'mon Ratts, get them working!!!

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Another win and confidence for our young guys.

Another great night for AJs confidence. Really must be loving life at the minute.

Young Jeff Garlett buzzing around giving the opposition the jimmys always puts a smile on my dial.

Aussie Hammer and Kroooz also growing in confidence. Such important players for us going forward.


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Still knowhere near enough running to position and creating options and linking for one another. C'mon Ratts, get them working!!!


I think your last point is a good one budzy, its where football has gone and where Ratts wants to take us, but he needs to scale it back until the players are ready to execute it.

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:10 am 
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Pros
We won by 40 odd points even though we were younger and less experienced than the Eagles who are in a rebuilding phase.

Another game into the youngsters.

Simmo was great.

Bower is showing he is a potential AA CHB. Has been in the top five for one percenters in the AFL for a great deal of the season.

We held our own in the ruck...against Cox :thumbsup:

We won well, yet we still have a great deal of improvement to come in terms of decision making, execution and transitional play.

Three wins over forty points and haven't conceded over 120 points as yet (we did eight times last season)...fingers crossed for the rest of the year. As a team we have improved defensively.

Nearly forgot AJ...ten tackles :thumbsup: All the kids showed something.

Cons

Still missing easy set shots.

Still need to cut down on the mental lapses during a game. Hopefully age and experience will help.

Decision making, execution and transitional play still need a lot of work. The development program we have finally put in place should help with this, as again will age and experience.


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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
budzy wrote:
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Another win and confidence for our young guys.

Another great night for AJs confidence. Really must be loving life at the minute.

Young Jeff Garlett buzzing around giving the opposition the jimmys always puts a smile on my dial.

Aussie Hammer and Kroooz also growing in confidence. Such important players for us going forward.


Con

Still knowhere near enough running to position and creating options and linking for one another. C'mon Ratts, get them working!!!


I think your last point is a good one budzy, its where football has gone and where Ratts wants to take us, but he needs to scale it back until the players are ready to execute it.


Scale it back?? It's football basics 101 these days. We need to work a lot more for each other!

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 Post subject: Re: R10: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:28 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
MonstaBlue wrote:
On another note.. watching Fevs kicking tonight, when you watch the replay watch how much he turns his hips to the left when he kicks... he seems to be really pulling through the kick hard and hence missing on the left hand side.... he didn't move his hips as much last year...


That is a great observation.

I watched for this when watching the replay and you're right, he turns his body from right to left, which is the same way his kicks go so he either needs to correct that or start aiming to the left hand post more.

The other thing is I think he's leading to the wrong side of the ground. If he was on the natural side for a right footer he may not turn his body as much.


I think that that is partly good defending by the opposition at times. They know that if they have to concede space to Fev, which side of the ground to do it on.

It's the same with Buddy, although with his strange kicking biomechanics they, including us, try to do it with what you would consider the opposite side for a natural left footer :screwy:


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