Yes I understand.

Well it won't 'just happen' and a bit of supporter unrest is not a bad thing at this stage.

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Don't disagree one bit.

You don't know that the Club isn't working hard to achieve the ultimate success.

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working beautifully Melvs

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There's so much I could say...

The time for "Lofty expectations" is still a year or so away. We're still in "lofty hope" territory.

We WILL get there, I have no doubt, and I'm sure the Club is doing its utmost to achieve that.

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Thornton
Hadley
Russell
Bentick
Johnson
Fisher
Hartlett
Stevens(except for last week
Cloke
Bannister
Houihan
Wiggins
Pfeiffer
Edwards


14 reasons why we havent come
AFl footballers have to be
1a good kick
2 reasonably quick
3 good footy brain(essential)
4 tough and team committed

If a player falls short in areas 1, 2 and 4 he must be extremley good in one of the others.

Example Jobe Watson
Great hands in close tough and good footy brain makes up for lack of pace.

We are simply not good enough

So you're saying we should ask Lance to come back?

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All jokes aside we havent made the hard calls as early as we could of
Whitnall
Kouta Campo should have been sent packing a lot earlier

Agree definitely on Lance and Camporeale.

Not so sure on Kouta, but he did hang on too long.

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I thought Lance hung on too long.

Campo should have retired Blue.

Kouta was fine IMO.

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Kouta was gone a couple of years before he hung em up.

Our best and fairest lists should be wiped from 2002 to 2007

Agreed.
BTW I'll say from the start that I don't really follow the Bullants that much, but the most frightening aspect of Carlton's mid term future can be summed up by this question.
Who the flower excites us in the magoos?. all our trump cards are in the seniors right now. For mine, the jury is out on Grigg, and Walker, well who knows. maybe Garlett??

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Looks like we are stuffed then. Time to change those in charge of the club, the coach and the list.

We are simply stuffed. Thanks for pointing it out so clearly guys. You have got me convinced.

Until we get excite machines like Jobe Watson playing for us its all about the Ashes.

Typical stupid response

Watson feeds the runners
The point I made was that he is excellent in close. One of the best in the league which makes up for his lack of pace.

And he is tough and has a good footy brain

I could give reasons why I would personally delist these guys But why bother


Yeah i may be negative But realistic as well.

The point everyone seems to be missing is that two years ago we won 4 games.
In six years we finished last three times and second last twice, both times a hair's breadth off last.
We've picked up some good kids and Judd but a record like Carlton 2002 - 2007 is no fluke.
The playing list was deplorable, the weakest post war, and probably worse than Fitzroy's dying days.
We still have some remnants of that list and draft penalties meant that we are two years behind where we would otherwise be.
We won't have a competitive list until 2011 at the earliest, no matter whether Ratten is Norm Smith reincarnated and each and every kid on our list makes the step from promising kid to bona fide AFL footballer, which isn't going to happen.
We're all impatient for success but it was never going to come this year or next no matter what, se have a Bex and a good lie down.

Disagree


You dont happen to be Marcus Rose ?

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Who?

Ex boardmember Rose... he compared us to the Royboys...

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Never heard of him, but the comparison is valid in certain areas.
The only thing that saved us was our huge supporter base but it was a close call, we were a basket case.

The irony...
.. the only thing that saved us was Rose making that exact comment comparing us with Fitzoy.

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Don't always agree with your opinions, but i think this is SPOT ON Budsy.
We got three #1 picks because we NEEDED them - we didn't just bottom out, we fell through the floor and crashed down to the basement.

Whether people do or don't rate Ratts, it's impossible to write him off yet.
He predicted that we would make finals this year, so let's wait and see.
If we don't..... then there should be more pressure on him next year.

Until then: HE FLOWERED UP, he admitted it, let's move on. A week and a half ago we smashed the Filth.
Perspective !