HSUN tomorrow (Culture Problem?) - [First posted in May09]

Orangewhip · **Joined:** Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 6154

MadBlue wrote:

For flower sake get over it !!!!!!

No teams rules broken
No curfew broken
No recovery session missed
Nobody assaulted
Nobody sexually assaulted
No drink driving
No harm done

The players go out after a game and get their mind off footy without harming anyone....big Flower deal !!!!!

Hardly anything mentioned about anyone else but Fev ???

Fev bashing at its best.

Hope he kicks a bagfull against the Pies and these same people bagging him will be bag on the bandwagon as usual.

Heavs · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:07 pm

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

dannyboy · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:08 pm

I know play Fev at fullback....oh wait.....

jake_h03 · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:13 pm

Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

Punishment could be having every post from this thread read to them by Stephen Hawking? :eek:

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8214

I hear this, I hear that. I read nothing at all and not even the parasite Hutchy could raise any interest. No matter how much you try the media will get it somehow. I've seen nothing. Would guarantee we would've read all about it, especially being Fev. Sounds like lots of rumour started by some dill on BF (yes BF so that tells you something) with nothing concrete. Fev's always will be Fev and still kicked 100 goals last year. Saturday night is 7 days before the next game, in this case 8. As long as it stays there I don't see where the problem is. Sure they're in fine shape by the next week. Don't think we're any different to any other club, even Geelong. Ask Stevie J.

So much rumour, exaggeration and pananoia.

verbs · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:16 pm

Heavs wrote:

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

Has Fevola not been putting in on the track? His 99 goals last year was nothing to sneeze at. I'd say he got the balance pretty much right in 2008. This year he's hardly been woeful, though I agree he wasn't too good last weekend, he did seemed hampered a little though.

Got no problem with him letting his hair down after that Hawthorn game. Much prefer him out enjoying himself as opposed to holed up somewhere fuming and making himself feel worse about hitting the post.

MPH78 · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:19 pm

stubba wrote:

cj69 wrote:

Rumor floating around the office that there is a meeting at Visy Park to discuss these issues.

Yep more about this on CSC

Any more on this guys? Who's involved in the meeting?

jake_h03 · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:19 pm

verbs wrote:

Heavs wrote:

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

Has Fevola not been putting in on the track? His 99 goals last year was nothing to sneeze at. I'd say he got the balance pretty much right in 2008. This year he's hardly been woeful, though I agree he wasn't too good last weekend, he did seemed hampered a little though.

Got no problem with him letting his hair down after that Hawthorn game. Much prefer him out enjoying himself as opposed to holed up somewhere fuming and making himself feel worse about hitting the post.

This isn't just about Fevola!

verbs · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:21 pm

jake_h03 wrote:

verbs wrote:

Heavs wrote:

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

Has Fevola not been putting in on the track? His 99 goals last year was nothing to sneeze at. I'd say he got the balance pretty much right in 2008. This year he's hardly been woeful, though I agree he wasn't too good last weekend, he did seemed hampered a little though.

Got no problem with him letting his hair down after that Hawthorn game. Much prefer him out enjoying himself as opposed to holed up somewhere fuming and making himself feel worse about hitting the post.

This isn't just about Fevola!

jake_h03 · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:24 pm

verbs wrote:

jake_h03 wrote:

verbs wrote:

Heavs wrote:

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

Has Fevola not been putting in on the track? His 99 goals last year was nothing to sneeze at. I'd say he got the balance pretty much right in 2008. This year he's hardly been woeful, though I agree he wasn't too good last weekend, he did seemed hampered a little though.

Got no problem with him letting his hair down after that Hawthorn game. Much prefer him out enjoying himself as opposed to holed up somewhere fuming and making himself feel worse about hitting the post.

This isn't just about Fevola!

What's funny? Pretty sure the thread refers to culture problem. There are many players involved

Heavs · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:26 pm

verbs wrote:

jake_h03 wrote:

verbs wrote:

Heavs wrote:

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

Has Fevola not been putting in on the track? His 99 goals last year was nothing to sneeze at. I'd say he got the balance pretty much right in 2008. This year he's hardly been woeful, though I agree he wasn't too good last weekend, he did seemed hampered a little though.

Got no problem with him letting his hair down after that Hawthorn game. Much prefer him out enjoying himself as opposed to holed up somewhere fuming and making himself feel worse about hitting the post.

This isn't just about Fevola!

It might be for some. There are people here that have had an axe to grind with Fev since 2002. I love the bloke but he is a leader now and he has to understand that the young blokes gravitate to him and follow his moves. If he's out till 6am they think 'well why can't I do that'. They might not be able to back up as well. There are other leaders I am more worried about. Blokes that dont' mind a beer and have never hidden the fact. It's a slightly disturbing trend.

verbs · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:27 pm

Heavs wrote:

verbs wrote:

jake_h03 wrote:

verbs wrote:

Heavs wrote:

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

Has Fevola not been putting in on the track? His 99 goals last year was nothing to sneeze at. I'd say he got the balance pretty much right in 2008. This year he's hardly been woeful, though I agree he wasn't too good last weekend, he did seemed hampered a little though.

Got no problem with him letting his hair down after that Hawthorn game. Much prefer him out enjoying himself as opposed to holed up somewhere fuming and making himself feel worse about hitting the post.

This isn't just about Fevola!

It might be for some. There are people here that have had an axe to grind with Fev since 2002. I love the bloke but he is a leader now and he has to understand that the young blokes gravitate to him and follow his moves. If he's out till 6am they think 'well why can't I do that'. They might not be able to back up as well. There are other leaders I am more worried about. Blokes that dont' mind a beer and have never hidden the fact. It's a slightly disturbing trend.

A man's gotta know his limitations.

cj69 · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2098

Heavs wrote:

verbs wrote:

jake_h03 wrote:

verbs wrote:

Heavs wrote:

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

Has Fevola not been putting in on the track? His 99 goals last year was nothing to sneeze at. I'd say he got the balance pretty much right in 2008. This year he's hardly been woeful, though I agree he wasn't too good last weekend, he did seemed hampered a little though.

Got no problem with him letting his hair down after that Hawthorn game. Much prefer him out enjoying himself as opposed to holed up somewhere fuming and making himself feel worse about hitting the post.

This isn't just about Fevola!

It might be for some. There are people here that have had an axe to grind with Fev since 2002. I love the bloke but he is a leader now and he has to understand that the young blokes gravitate to him and follow his moves. If he's out till 6am they think 'well why can't I do that'. They might not be able to back up as well. There are other leaders I am more worried about. Blokes that dont' mind a beer and have never hidden the fact. It's a slightly disturbing trend.

Fev is a leader by default only. He is not a leader in the true sense of the word especially when used within a team environment.

Melvey · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 4:49 pm

What's more important...........

making an example and discipline the guys or

a win on sunday and the boys survive to live another week

cj69 · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2098

Melvey wrote:

What's more important...........

making an example and discipline the guys or

a win on sunday and the boys survive to live another week

Short term pain for long term gain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

deano35 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:45 pm **Posts:** 1756

Sorry for my ignorance but have any of our players broken the law or team rules?????

aramari · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 5:06 pm

cj69 wrote:

Heavs wrote:

verbs wrote:

jake_h03 wrote:

verbs wrote:

Heavs wrote:

What a fantastic discussion. People discussing the points and raising their various arguments. Not having one point of view rammed down our throats by particular 'personalities'.

FWIW, in my opinion Josh has it pretty spot on with his balance comment. Go out and have a good time, sure. But back up and do the work on the track afterwards.

Could the problem be that Fev is such a good bloke that all the young fellas latch onto him like the pied piper. And while Juddy is respected he's not really 'liked' as such?

Has Fevola not been putting in on the track? His 99 goals last year was nothing to sneeze at. I'd say he got the balance pretty much right in 2008. This year he's hardly been woeful, though I agree he wasn't too good last weekend, he did seemed hampered a little though.

Got no problem with him letting his hair down after that Hawthorn game. Much prefer him out enjoying himself as opposed to holed up somewhere fuming and making himself feel worse about hitting the post.

This isn't just about Fevola!

It might be for some. There are people here that have had an axe to grind with Fev since 2002. I love the bloke but he is a leader now and he has to understand that the young blokes gravitate to him and follow his moves. If he's out till 6am they think 'well why can't I do that'. They might not be able to back up as well. There are other leaders I am more worried about. Blokes that dont' mind a beer and have never hidden the fact. It's a slightly disturbing trend.

Fev is a leader by default only. He is not a leader in the true sense of the word especially when used within a team environment.

fev IS a leader - he leads our young players....astray

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

deano35 wrote:

Sorry for my ignorance but have any of our players broken the law or team rules?????

Should players need to be told that staying out on an all night bender will hinder their performance? Should they need a curfew? I don’t go out on the piss on a Sunday night for many reasons, one being that I’ll know I’ll be rat shit all week.

camel · **Posted:** Fri May 15, 2009 5:16 pm

eric pascoe wrote:

Can everyone just take a chill pill?
Never heard that we had a cultural problem in 79, 81 and 82. Only St Kilda had one. Reason? We were winning and they were losing.
End of story.

Well it is 2009 and we're losing and St Kilda is winning. :lol:

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076

The comments on CSC are interesting.

Ratts embarassed several players? Or did they embarass themselves and can't handle the criticism? Tissues needed? More HTFU bands?

See IMO 3am in a hotel bar is completely different to 7am in Melbourne City.

We'll know on Sunday around 5pm what's going on. Big game you could say.

HSUN tomorrow (Culture Problem?) - [First posted in May09]

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