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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:55 pm 
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i think we would be lucky to get a bag of mouldy old socks in a trade

We're trading Fevola for James Sellar?


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:58 pm 
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But Fev isn't going anywhere.


Wouldn't be too sure about that...but Roughead as per Benji's posting of straightening us up.


He likes the Gold Coast...allegedly.


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:45 pm 
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But Fev isn't going anywhere.


Wouldn't be too sure about that...but Roughead as per Benji's posting of straightening us up.


He likes the Gold Coast...allegedly.


Yes...that's what I was alluding to...last chance last time wasn't it?


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:46 pm 
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I'd replace him with Harts, I don't like anyone else, except Robbo but he is too old now. Actually Taylor Walker, he will be a gun.


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:05 pm 
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Rewoldt. Reckon we need out best forward a little further up the ground than what fev plays. Not a goal square leading forward but one who cuts all sorts of angles ,leads up the wings if required and can pluck a pack mark.

We are stuck with fev. If what he has done is so bad then we should just suspend him for the rest of the season. Leave it up to him to get his life together and work out if he is going to play by the rules. Help him with treatment of course.
He will either completely change for the better or get blind drunk for six months and lose all his doe at a poker table.

Shame, he is an amazing footballer when off the piss.


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:10 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Rewoldt. Reckon we need out best forward a little further up the ground than what fev plays. Not a goal square leading forward but one who cuts all sorts of angles ,leads up the wings if required and can pluck a pack mark.

We are stuck with fev. If what he has done is so bad then we should just suspend him for the rest of the season. Leave it up to him to get his life together and work out if he is going to play by the rules. Help him with treatment of course.
He will either completely change for the better or get blind drunk for six months and lose all his doe at a poker table.

Shame, he is an amazing footballer when off the piss.


Stuck with Fev ??? And waste our opportunities in the next few years ?? Na...............cut him now, he's had his chances and then some. Since he likes the GC soooo much, maybe we could get 3 picks inside the top 10 for him next year :donk:


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:29 pm 
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GC would be our only chance.

Everyone else wouldn't be willing to offload their first rounder for him.

It's GC or he's staying with us.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:31 pm 
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MIL wrote:
club29 wrote:
Rewoldt. Reckon we need out best forward a little further up the ground than what fev plays. Not a goal square leading forward but one who cuts all sorts of angles ,leads up the wings if required and can pluck a pack mark.

We are stuck with fev. If what he has done is so bad then we should just suspend him for the rest of the season. Leave it up to him to get his life together and work out if he is going to play by the rules. Help him with treatment of course.
He will either completely change for the better or get blind drunk for six months and lose all his doe at a poker table.

Shame, he is an amazing footballer when off the piss.


Stuck with Fev ??? And waste our opportunities in the next few years ?? Na...............cut him now, he's had his chances and then some. Since he likes the GC soooo much, maybe we could get 3 picks inside the top 10 for him next year :donk:


I agree but they wont take him because of his issues. A second round pick at best and we would have to pay half his salary.
Id teach him a life lesson and suspend him for this season and then Bullants from then on. Thats if its that bad. So far it is speculation.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:48 am 
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I don't care what we would get, just get rid of him!

The freshness and excitment that would be back in the club would be huge!


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:52 am 
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:55 am 
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I think you're 2-3 years from peaking, I think the Hawks peaked early but the Cats and Saints look more standard on maturity of their lists. It's a gamble with Fev because of his off field behaviour, influence off-field, age when you peak and the fact that his presence dictates the way you play.

Star key forwards are very hard to come by but you can win the flag without one if your midfield is good enough - look at Geelong and West Coast. You already have the makings of a comparably great midfield and really good midfielders can still be found in the middle of the first round - look at Rich, Ziebell and Selwood.

I don't think you're going to be in a ladder position to draft a Fev replacement, I think they're probably only available in the top 5 picks. No other club is going to trade or let go a young gun key forward, the only possible trade option is Pav, he's only a year older than Fev, but he would be very expensive.

You'll probably be hard pressed to get fair value at the trade table. If the Dogs fall short again this year and they think it's because of a lack of key forward would they be interested in Fev? How long is his contract? I can't see the GC taking him in 2011, they'll be going for 28 or younger and he'll be 30.

It's a tough one.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:51 am 
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old55 wrote:
I think you're 2-3 years from peaking,
I don't think you're going to be in a ladder position to draft a Fev replacement, I think they're probably only available in the top 5 picks. No other club is going to trade or let go a young gun key forward,


I agree with all of that.
The draft won't help us but free agency will.
It will be in place in some shape or form within two years. Free agency will flush out more players who want to leave a state for their home state or leave a struggling club to enhance their chance of a flag. Just ask Greg Wells.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 12:17 pm 
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Nup - i'm a Fevola fan.

You take the good with the bad with Fev, cause he's just that type of player.

Somebody on here before likend him to Warrick Capper?

WTF? :eek: :screwy:

Fevola could well TRIPLE Cappers goal tally by the time he's finished his career and will most likely become our greatest ever goal kicker in front of Sticks.

For all his stupidity, he is a match winner and a champion. Capper, at best, was a flashy, selfish and didn't give a stuff which team he played for.

Sure, he had a bad game the other night, but he wasn't the worst player on the ground. And i can't say that i blame him for chucking a hissy fit every now and then with our delivery to him.
- at his feet
- over his head
- sometimes when he's got 3 defenders on him.

If we had traded him to Richmond all those years ago, we probably would have got a dud. Let's face it. You just don't trade your star players.


It'd make me sick to see him in anything else but Navy Blue.


I agree. I was at the game on the weekend, and the few times Fev could get one out or on a lead, we would piss around with it, overuse it, and eventually bomb it long. There were a lot of times where Fev would be on a lead and the player with the ball would just keep running rather than delivering, and then by the time he disposed of it Fev was too close and his lead was wasted.

Not that this condones his behaviour at all, but it would have been frustrating

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:07 pm 
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I wouldnt trade Fev at all, all you guys wont be saying this on Sunday about 5pm... when he has kicked a bag and got us up against the scumbag Pies

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:48 pm 
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Definitely Kreuzer playing the Kernahan role - he is going to beef up and can be a Richardson & Kernahan all rolled into one.. alternate Warnock & Hampson in the ruck.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 1:03 pm 
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Franklin... Pav if he was younger.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 1:36 pm 
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blue4 wrote:
Definitely Kreuzer playing the Kernahan role - he is going to beef up and can be a Richardson & Kernahan all rolled into one.. alternate Warnock & Hampson in the ruck.


IMO easily the most natural key forward at the club since Kernahan.

He is tall, mobile, footy smart, a clean one grab player, a good kick for goal, defensively very good and can lead like a FF but also pack mark.

He will not be outmarked, his attitude and body language is first class, will eventually be our captain and guys like Betts, Garlett, Robinson & Yarran will feed off him.

Add Waite to the mix as a mobile fwd and it is one very potent fwd line.

Plus he is still only 19!

With Hammer, Jacobs & Warnock developing surely this kid must be developed in the role of key target inside 50?


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 1:52 pm 
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I think its important for Krooze to play his natural game. Thats in the ruck and on ball and spurts up forward to pinch two or three

Trying to turn him into a forward could hamper his development and not getting the best out of the kid.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 2:17 pm 
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Melvey wrote:
I think its important for Krooze to play his natural game. Thats in the ruck and on ball and spurts up forward to pinch two or three

Trying to turn him into a forward could hamper his development and not getting the best out of the kid.



I actually think he is one of those rare people taht would be equally good at both ala Paul Salmon at his best.

At the moment we don't have other fwd options and don't look to have any developing. Atleast we have some options in the ruck.


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