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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:12 pm 
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AJ on Medhurst?

Big job, but I reckon AJ has the pace and the prick in him to get the job done.

Any other suggestions for the match up?

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:18 pm 
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This is what I would do...

OUT : Wiggins. Two to three poor weeks after a good start to the year, so needs to be sent a message.

IN : Fisher. Make it clear this is possibly his last chance at CFC.




OUT : Cloke. Possibly to never return. too slow, both by foot and also by hand. Doesn't bag enough goals.

IN : Hartlett. Make it clear this is possibly his last chance at CFC.



OUT : Hadley. He has been average at best for 3 games straight now at senior level, and looked dejected last weekend. Reckon we are seeing just why Lions let him go. I don't know if he is really up for the long ride. Get rid of him.

IN : Robinson. He picks himself really.



STRUCTURALLY 1 : Get Waite out of defense and only put him back there if we fall behind. Tell Thornton he needs to learn to play the sweeper role. He has the experience, and quite frankly I don't think he is good enough 1-on-1 so he might as well be the unaccountable sweeper. Austin to replace Thornton as a stopper down back. Waite to play on a wing and shift him if we run into trouble.

STRUCTURALLY 2 : Give Hammer more time near goal. Thought he provided a better contest than Cloke last week in his brief stint near goal.

STRUCTURALLY 3 : Hartlett to play CHF. I know he has been at FB in the VFL the past few weeks, but the cold hard reality is he is too slow to play defense at senior AFL level.

FORWARDLINE BECOMES...

HFF Yarran, Hartlett, Fisher

F Betts, Fevola, Hampson

Let's see which of those 3 new talls have what it takes. Hampson not in the FP all day of course. And if the fwdline is too slow then you take 1 of the talls off. But Pies backline is short and they will be undermanned so it might be a good chance to go tall and test these young talls of ours.

Tell Fevola and Stevens if they don't bring their A Games they will be in red jumpers the following week with Ryan.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:23 pm 
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Whats the ticketing arrangement for this game? A mate of mine reckons he reserved seats and could only find them in the nosebleed section, surely you can score something better?


What's the nosebleed section? the collingwood cheersquad??

Does anyone know which end their cheersquad sits at their home games???

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:26 pm 
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phoenix johnson wrote:
AJ on Medhurst?

Big job, but I reckon AJ has the pace and the prick in him to get the job done.

Any other suggestions for the match up?



Jamison has played on Medhurst before and done quite well

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:51 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
phoenix johnson wrote:
AJ on Medhurst?

Big job, but I reckon AJ has the pace and the prick in him to get the job done.

Any other suggestions for the match up?



Jamison has played on Medhurst before and done quite well


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Jamo has done VERY WELL on Meds. Obvious match up.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:53 pm 
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..for me, i'd go with this team..

FB: Joseph Jamison Austin
HB: Snotland Thornton Bower
C: Stevens Gibbs Simmo
HF: Hoops Waite Wiggins
FF: Betts Fev Armfield
RR: Krooz Juddles Murphos

Int: Russell Hammer Hadley Browne

Ins: Hoops, Browne
Outs: Cloke, Yarran

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:02 pm 
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cj69 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
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Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.


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My point regarding Austin and Hampson is they have just been included and need to stay and get games into them.

Anderson has probably been the most consistent player in the Ants all year. It is also the first time that he has had a full pre season and is injury free. Speak to anyone who goes to the games and they will say the same thing. Browne has been good and has been playing a defensive role on a wing to get match fitness up. My guess is he will be played in defence when he comes in.

As for Robbo his past three weeks have been very good both in offence and defence.

These guys are the future! My point is that if Russell can get the chances he has then these guys deserve a decent run.

We know what the others offer and it isn't much. We need to see if these guys can offer more otherwise we are going nowhere.


Fair enough.

Certainly didn't come across that way.

I can't see why you would leave Cloke and Wiggins in the team. What about Hadley?...maybe he needs more ground time? I thought he was lost on the weekend, and he's one of my favourite and dependable players.

Where do you want to play all these kids.

Anderson was reportedly avearge last weekend. Stale in the Ants? Where do you play him, and who do you replace?

Browne in defense? Whose spot does he take? Thornton? Jamison? Bower? Waite? :wink:


Certainly wouldn't have Cloke or Wiggins in the side.

Having been involved with a lot of these guys at U18 Level I would try and play them back in there original positions atleast until they get some confidence.

AJ could easily play on ball. He is a ball magnet and has a great engine and is tough. Robbo is the same.

Browne is a typical small BP. He is tough and will do any job and is attacking as well.

Anderson is the classic HBF. Runs well and does use the ball well and is disciplined. Won a B&F in that position in Darwin (which is a top level league) in the seniors at 16-17.

We can argue all day whether they are up to it but they are young and deserve their chance IMO.



The way you put that CJ is convincing.

Always did like Browne, but as you know my nod goes to Armfirld between those guys, Robbo (nuff said) and Anderson, I can't wait for the day he cements a spot...tough and fast...as long as his kicking has come on...worth a punt.

Definetely good candidates for the future.

Its coming together, and whilst I think development comes from giving them games, I do not want to jeopardise a win at this stage of the season.

All 3 you mention could add value to the seniors against Collingwood.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:04 pm 
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budzy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
budzy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.


Everyone else is biased except you bondi.. :lol:


Thanks budzy

Got to pick up ambiguities and hypocsisy where I can...and support the underdog against biased posters.

You like going for the man...lately...back to the footy.

Now go and prove your points.


weak links break the chain bondi

always about the TEAM ... the team.


True


you're only as good as your weakest links.

I will not subject myself to weak links...do I have to prove that now?

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:16 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..for me, i'd go with this team..

FB: Joseph Jamison Austin
HB: Snotland Thornton Bower
C: Stevens Gibbs Simmo
HF: Hoops Waite Wiggins
FF: Betts Fev Armfield
RR: Krooz Juddles Murphos

Int: Russell Hammer Hadley Browne

Ins: Hoops, Browne
Outs: Cloke, Yarran

:garthp:

I love shaking my head at posts before seeing the same usernames attached to them.

After playing Waite forward last week, we might have to shift down back after the job he did on Rocca in round four last year.

Or we should bring back Setanta if Ratten can forget the fact that O'hAilpin isn't a good footballer. :idea:

It would be great to see Bower given the job with Cloke out and the Pies short on tall forwards.

Austin could play on Reid or Dawes if they're promoted for Cloke.

I think Oz played a good game on Dawes in the VFL last year


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:29 pm 
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Fev will kick 10 against the Pies if he plays this week...

he always rips them apart.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:50 pm 
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Virgin Blue wrote:
This is what I would do...

OUT : Wiggins. Two to three poor weeks after a good start to the year, so needs to be sent a message.

IN : Fisher. Make it clear this is possibly his last chance at CFC.




OUT : Cloke. Possibly to never return. too slow, both by foot and also by hand. Doesn't bag enough goals.

IN : Hartlett. Make it clear this is possibly his last chance at CFC.



OUT : Hadley. He has been average at best for 3 games straight now at senior level, and looked dejected last weekend. Reckon we are seeing just why Lions let him go. I don't know if he is really up for the long ride. Get rid of him.

IN : Robinson. He picks himself really.



STRUCTURALLY 1 : Get Waite out of defense and only put him back there if we fall behind. Tell Thornton he needs to learn to play the sweeper role. He has the experience, and quite frankly I don't think he is good enough 1-on-1 so he might as well be the unaccountable sweeper. Austin to replace Thornton as a stopper down back. Waite to play on a wing and shift him if we run into trouble.

STRUCTURALLY 2 : Give Hammer more time near goal. Thought he provided a better contest than Cloke last week in his brief stint near goal.

STRUCTURALLY 3 : Hartlett to play CHF. I know he has been at FB in the VFL the past few weeks, but the cold hard reality is he is too slow to play defense at senior AFL level.

FORWARDLINE BECOMES...

HFF Yarran, Hartlett, Fisher

F Betts, Fevola, Hampson

Let's see which of those 3 new talls have what it takes. Hampson not in the FP all day of course. And if the fwdline is too slow then you take 1 of the talls off. But Pies backline is short and they will be undermanned so it might be a good chance to go tall and test these young talls of ours.

Tell Fevola and Stevens if they don't bring their A Games they will be in red jumpers the following week with Ryan.


Defensively a weak forward line...might get away with it against Collingwood but not against most other teams. Need more players who apply defensive pressure up forward. I know injuries to Grigg Walker and Carazzo havent helped in this regard but they are all better players than fish hartlett and co in that fwd setup.

Robbo would be better on a flank IMO and I just cant see how Fisher fits into the team any longer. Agree with your outs however I'd bring in more run. Play a smaller team and run it quickly through the corridor and keep the fwd 50 open. At the G this is how its done.

Down back we really need to move Thornton out of there and give Austin the task and see what happens. I'd actually drop Thornton but given the injuries i'd try him across HF instead of the hartlett option. Waite to be freed up on a wing and Kruezer at CHF swapping with Hampson. No need for tall timber other than these two in this game.

Garlett should come in and be played in a swapping role with Yarran. These two plus betts will cause headaches and Garlett and Betts have a good defensive side to their game so hopefully some of this will rub off on Yarran.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:53 pm 
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bondiblue???
what stage did i say armfield was on his last chance?[i said thornton] if your going to have a go at me maybe you should read it right!!!!!! READ IT!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

what has russell done wrong you ask? more to the point what has he done right!!! misses targets, could not make the distance from 45mts out and how many tackles did he lay? how many times did he put a team mate under pressure with his handballs?[not the only one]

after watching the bullants game three times now, houilhan did not lay one tackle, was caught four times, did not chase once, put robinson and fisher under the pump with two bad handalls and was not named in the best, so maybe you should watch the game yourself and tell me if he should be called back up this week! robinson and gartlett were chasing down two blokes while houilhan lay on the ground watching!!! weak effort.

gartlett layed six tackles, kicked a goal, chased down three players inside 50, kicking and handballs HIT the targets, oh has pace to burn!

so imo i would like too see robinson, garlett and browne come in this week.
in regards to hampson go back to the first few pages and you will find the hampson arbiters!!!!

i feel that cloke, wiggins and ruseell just need a spell in the bullants, while giving our future [robinson, gartlett and browne] a few games. and i will be flowering infuriated if hampson, yarran or austin are dropped this week!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:53 pm 
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Virgin Blue wrote:

FORWARDLINE BECOMES...

HFF Yarran, Hartlett, Fisher

F Betts, Fevola, Hampson




With that fwd line the ball will come out quicker than it goes in! :yikes:

Hartlett has been told his future is in defence and to make the most of it.

Fisher is gawn, his performances this year barely keep him in the Bullants Ones.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:04 pm 
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This is a side to beat Collingwood and gain confidence for the future.

FB: Browne Jamison Austin
HB: Anderson Bower Russell
C: Joseph Gibbs Armfield
HF: Yarran Kruezer Robinson
FF: Betts Fevola Waite
RR: Hampson Judd Murphy

Int: Hadley Scotland Thornton Stevens
Emerg: Grigg Bannister Garlett

This side will be suited to the MCG and doesn't need to be tall against Collingwood.

Defensively strong and has genuine goalkicking options. Stevens to play in bursts when heat out of game.

Lots of options through the midfield and not to tall (which has been a problem) in defence giving us run.

Guys like Armfield, Joseph, Anderson, Browne to run the lines and take the game on! :grin:


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:28 pm 
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Firearm Fevs wrote:
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Whats the ticketing arrangement for this game? A mate of mine reckons he reserved seats and could only find them in the nosebleed section, surely you can score something better?


What's the nosebleed section? the collingwood cheersquad??

Does anyone know which end their cheersquad sits at their home games???


for all mcg games collingwood is at the ponsford end.

as for this week, clearly we are in struggletown. our forward line is non-existant and obviously we have a heck of a lot of injuries. we badly missed our goalkickers last night. hopefully medhurst, davis and anthony return, so too beams otherwise we are poked.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:34 pm 
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cj69 wrote:
This is a side to beat Collingwood and gain confidence for the future.

FB: Browne Jamison Austin
HB: Anderson Bower Russell
C: Joseph Gibbs Armfield
HF: Yarran Kruezer Robinson
FF: Betts Fevola Waite
RR: Hampson Judd Murphy

Int: Hadley Scotland Thornton Stevens
Emerg: Grigg Bannister Garlett

This side will be suited to the MCG and doesn't need to be tall against Collingwood.

Defensively strong and has genuine goalkicking options. Stevens to play in bursts when heat out of game.

Lots of options through the midfield and not to tall (which has been a problem) in defence giving us run.

Guys like Armfield, Joseph, Anderson, Browne to run the lines and take the game on! :grin:


This side will win by 16 goals. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:41 pm 
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Polar Eyes wrote:
Firearm Fevs wrote:
Blueboy_Dan wrote:
Whats the ticketing arrangement for this game? A mate of mine reckons he reserved seats and could only find them in the nosebleed section, surely you can score something better?


What's the nosebleed section? the collingwood cheersquad??

Does anyone know which end their cheersquad sits at their home games???


for all mcg games collingwood is at the ponsford end.

as for this week, clearly we are in struggletown. our forward line is non-existant and obviously we have a heck of a lot of injuries. we badly missed our goalkickers last night. hopefully medhurst, davis and anthony return, so too beams otherwise we are poked.


Thanks Polar Eyes, much appreciated.

Thank God! I purchased two tickets for me and my lovely to go, and they are Level 1 between the goals and the fifty at the punt rd end.......

Bring on Sunday :grin:

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:44 pm 
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We will crush them.

and then dance on their nuff, nuff graves.

they are SCum.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:44 pm 
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cj69 wrote:
This is a side to beat Collingwood and gain confidence for the future.

FB: Browne Jamison Austin
HB: Anderson Bower Russell
C: Joseph Gibbs Armfield
HF: Yarran Kruezer Robinson
FF: Betts Fevola Waite
RR: Hampson Judd Murphy

Int: Hadley Scotland Thornton Stevens
Emerg: Grigg Bannister Garlett

This side will be suited to the MCG and doesn't need to be tall against Collingwood.

Defensively strong and has genuine goalkicking options. Stevens to play in bursts when heat out of game.

Lots of options through the midfield and not to tall (which has been a problem) in defence giving us run.

Guys like Armfield, Joseph, Anderson, Browne to run the lines and take the game on! :grin:


I'd love to see those 4 you've named on the bench in the bullants and replaced (in an injury free world) with Grigg Walker Carazzo and ???

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:56 pm 
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Welcome to another episode of Short Attention Span Theater where the age old question still remains unanswered.

Who came first.....Chicken, Egg, Big Bang!?!?!?!

We will come to play and we will win, win win win.


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