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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:39 pm 
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Josh Fraser (knee) out
Paul Medhurst (ankle) out
Dayne Swan (knee) out
Dale Thomas (hammy) out
Leon Davis (abdominal strain) out
Sean Rusling (shoulder) out
John McCarthy (hamstring) out
Alan Didak (hamstring) out
Travis Cloke (hamstring) out
Ben Johnson (broken leg) out

If we can't beat the Collingwood seconds side then we really do have problems. :yikes:


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:42 pm 
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The Dominator wrote:
Josh Fraser (knee) out
Paul Medhurst (ankle) out
Dayne Swan (knee) out
Dale Thomas (hammy) out
Leon Davis (abdominal strain) out
Sean Rusling (shoulder) out
John McCarthy (hamstring) out
Alan Didak (hamstring) out
Travis Cloke (hamstring) out
Ben Johnson (broken leg) out

If we can't beat the Collingwood seconds side then we really do have problems. :yikes:


How will our boys handle the pressure.. :donk: .. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:43 pm 
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cj69 wrote:
Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:47 pm 
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The Dominator wrote:
Josh Fraser (knee) out
Paul Medhurst (ankle) out
Dayne Swan (knee) out
Dale Thomas (hammy) out
Leon Davis (abdominal strain) out
Sean Rusling (shoulder) out
John McCarthy (hamstring) out
Alan Didak (hamstring) out
Travis Cloke (hamstring) out
Ben Johnson (broken leg) out

If we can't beat the Collingwood seconds side then we really do have problems. :yikes:


Surely some will play against us this weekend.

Medhurst, Davis for a start. Or have all those players been written off for the game because 6 day break wont cut it?

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:50 pm 
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The Dominator wrote:
Josh Fraser (knee) out
Paul Medhurst (ankle) out
Dayne Swan (knee) out
Dale Thomas (hammy) out
Leon Davis (abdominal strain) out
Sean Rusling (shoulder) out
John McCarthy (hamstring) out
Alan Didak (hamstring) out
Travis Cloke (hamstring) out
Ben Johnson (broken leg) out

If we can't beat the Collingwood seconds side then we really do have problems. :yikes:


Where's this info come from Dom?

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:52 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.


Everyone else is biased except you bondi.. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:54 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.


BB

My point regarding Austin and Hampson is they have just been included and need to stay and get games into them.

Anderson has probably been the most consistent player in the Ants all year. It is also the first time that he has had a full pre season and is injury free. Speak to anyone who goes to the games and they will say the same thing. Browne has been good and has been playing a defensive role on a wing to get match fitness up. My guess is he will be played in defence when he comes in.

As for Robbo his past three weeks have been very good both in offence and defence.

These guys are the future! My point is that if Russell can get the chances he has then these guys deserve a decent run.

We know what the others offer and it isn't much. We need to see if these guys can offer more otherwise we are going nowhere.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:11 pm 
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..it's not just their injury concerns.. ..it looks like good ol' Malty has 'lost the players'.. ..with the amount of outs (and many significant) we need to make sure we shut down Pendles (which isn't hard, but he deserves respect in how the pies use him and look to him, put a hard/physical tag on him).. ..likewise Clarke and Shaw give them drive, watch out for those three and they'll struggle.. ..and they truely play the wings, we don't.. ..we just get pushed out to the sides easily.. ..but the pies give up the corridor, so we'll find plenty of space thru the middle to run and carry..

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:12 pm 
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budzy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.


Everyone else is biased except you bondi.. :lol:


Thanks budzy

Got to pick up ambiguities and hypocsisy where I can...and support the underdog against biased posters.

You like going for the man...lately...back to the footy.

Now go and prove your points.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:13 pm 
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Cloke is out - http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

The Travis variety that is, could be a few others to by the looks of it,

Here's hoping we don't take them lightly.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:18 pm 
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cj69 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.


BB

My point regarding Austin and Hampson is they have just been included and need to stay and get games into them.

Anderson has probably been the most consistent player in the Ants all year. It is also the first time that he has had a full pre season and is injury free. Speak to anyone who goes to the games and they will say the same thing. Browne has been good and has been playing a defensive role on a wing to get match fitness up. My guess is he will be played in defence when he comes in.

As for Robbo his past three weeks have been very good both in offence and defence.

These guys are the future! My point is that if Russell can get the chances he has then these guys deserve a decent run.

We know what the others offer and it isn't much. We need to see if these guys can offer more otherwise we are going nowhere.


Fair enough.

Certainly didn't come across that way.

I can't see why you would leave Cloke and Wiggins in the team. What about Hadley?...maybe he needs more ground time? I thought he was lost on the weekend, and he's one of my favourite and dependable players.

Where do you want to play all these kids.

Anderson was reportedly avearge last weekend. Stale in the Ants? Where do you play him, and who do you replace?

Browne in defense? Whose spot does he take? Thornton? Jamison? Bower? Waite? :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:18 pm 
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Micka1988 wrote:
Cloke is out - http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

The Travis variety that is, could be a few others to by the looks of it,

Here's hoping we don't take them lightly.


Yep Cloke and Didak will both miss:

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Collingwood football manager Geoff Walsh said the powerfully-built left-footer was having scans today but was expected to miss upcoming matches against the Blues, West Coast and Port Adelaide.

“Trav will probably miss a couple of weeks, I think it’s a regulation hammy … we’d expect it’ll be something that’ll take 14 to 21 days,” Walsh told collingwoodfc.com.au.

Alan Didak (hamstring), another player who usually adds flair and creates so much with the ball in his hands, is another week away from resuming.


however Fraser, Medhurst, Davis, Swan and Thomas should play:

Quote:
Walsh said Davis and Medhurst should be fit to tackle Carlton and Fraser was also confident he could play, despite injuring the same posterior cruciate ligament which has hampered him in past seasons.

Walsh said midfielders Dane Swan (groin) and Dale Thomas were sore but should be right to play this week.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:23 pm 
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Medhurst must be starved of the ball if he plays, otherwise he's likely to kick 5 goals from 5 touches against us.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:34 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.


BB

My point regarding Austin and Hampson is they have just been included and need to stay and get games into them.

Anderson has probably been the most consistent player in the Ants all year. It is also the first time that he has had a full pre season and is injury free. Speak to anyone who goes to the games and they will say the same thing. Browne has been good and has been playing a defensive role on a wing to get match fitness up. My guess is he will be played in defence when he comes in.

As for Robbo his past three weeks have been very good both in offence and defence.

These guys are the future! My point is that if Russell can get the chances he has then these guys deserve a decent run.

We know what the others offer and it isn't much. We need to see if these guys can offer more otherwise we are going nowhere.


Fair enough.

Certainly didn't come across that way.

I can't see why you would leave Cloke and Wiggins in the team. What about Hadley?...maybe he needs more ground time? I thought he was lost on the weekend, and he's one of my favourite and dependable players.

Where do you want to play all these kids.

Anderson was reportedly avearge last weekend. Stale in the Ants? Where do you play him, and who do you replace?

Browne in defense? Whose spot does he take? Thornton? Jamison? Bower? Waite? :wink:


Certainly wouldn't have Cloke or Wiggins in the side.

Having been involved with a lot of these guys at U18 Level I would try and play them back in there original positions atleast until they get some confidence.

AJ could easily play on ball. He is a ball magnet and has a great engine and is tough. Robbo is the same.

Browne is a typical small BP. He is tough and will do any job and is attacking as well.

Anderson is the classic HBF. Runs well and does use the ball well and is disciplined. Won a B&F in that position in Darwin (which is a top level league) in the seniors at 16-17.

We can argue all day whether they are up to it but they are young and deserve their chance IMO.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:42 pm 
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Humpers wrote:
Micka1988 wrote:
Cloke is out - http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

The Travis variety that is, could be a few others to by the looks of it,

Here's hoping we don't take them lightly.


Yep Cloke and Didak will both miss:

Quote:
Collingwood football manager Geoff Walsh said the powerfully-built left-footer was having scans today but was expected to miss upcoming matches against the Blues, West Coast and Port Adelaide.

“Trav will probably miss a couple of weeks, I think it’s a regulation hammy … we’d expect it’ll be something that’ll take 14 to 21 days,” Walsh told collingwoodfc.com.au.

Alan Didak (hamstring), another player who usually adds flair and creates so much with the ball in his hands, is another week away from resuming.


however Fraser, Medhurst, Davis, Swan and Thomas should play:

Quote:
Walsh said Davis and Medhurst should be fit to tackle Carlton and Fraser was also confident he could play, despite injuring the same posterior cruciate ligament which has hampered him in past seasons.

Walsh said midfielders Dane Swan (groin) and Dale Thomas were sore but should be right to play this week.


Please don't ever believe what Walsh says. :confused:

Fraser wont play this week or the next 6-8. :smile:

Swan is def gone. :wink:

Thomas - really want him to play so Murphy can rub it in his face.....again!!!!! :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:51 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
budzy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Why do people keep looking at bringing in guys like Fisher, Houlihan & Setanta. They have had there chances and are NOT up to it.

Players such as Browne, Anderson, Robinson, Hampson, Austin deserve their chance ahead of these guys on form alone.

If they are given the same opportunities given to Russell they just might show they have what it takes.


Sorry cj but what a load of rubbish.

Hampson is in the team.............remember?
Austin is in the team...............remember?

Anderson in form? Not what I got from the training reports, plus a mate of mine saw him and said he was definetely not ready based on the weekend's performance in the Ants.

How did Browne become an emergency? Form? No way.

He's the only one who had missed out being selected as an emergency all year...doesn't mean he's in form, just next off the rank. Have a look at yours and others' Bullant reports on Browne to jolt your memory.

Robinson....now there's a player who should be given a go.

So you want to retain Cloke, Wiggler and Hadley? You want to drop 2 for Browne and who? Anderson?

Houla and Robbo can kick goals. We need to kick a bigger score than the opposition. That has been missing in our losses. So replacing out of form forward players Cloke and Wiggins will solve the problem with the inclusion of Anderson and Browne up foward.

If Cloke gets dropped and we need a tall replacement then Setanta is the obvious choice, or you would have listed Hartlett if otherwise? He's not on your list.

Get with the programme. Next game Round 8 against Collingwood. We're on the same points. This is a must win.


Everyone else is biased except you bondi.. :lol:


Thanks budzy

Got to pick up ambiguities and hypocsisy where I can...and support the underdog against biased posters.

You like going for the man...lately...back to the footy.

Now go and prove your points.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:59 pm 
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Explain Fev then. That'll be an interesting bit of fancy footwork. Fact is that the benefits that some bring to the TEAM outweigh negatives regarding the TEAM. With the exception of Judd and a small number of others, just about every player has his critics who think that he is the weak link in the chain.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:04 pm 
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Don't worry, John Anthony will probably tear Thornton a new one.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:04 pm 
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Fevs consistency is vastly improved, IMO. Definitely room for improvement still no doubt.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:07 pm 
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Explain Fev then. That'll be an interesting bit of fancy footwork. Fact is that the benefits that some bring to the TEAM outweigh negatives regarding the TEAM. With the exception of Judd and a small number of others, just about every player has his critics who think that he is the weak link in the chain.



I doubt there is a person on this earth who can explain Fev :wink:

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