Nah I reckon a majority of people who watched the game would think Hampson was poor, and Id bet a lot on that event occuring.

Oh and at least that garbage team wins things

kinda pointless (when it comes to my reply anyway) responding to a post in a different thread.

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It only makes sense that people can discuss what they agree and/or disagree with from somebody's pros and cons. A bit of argument over what was a pro and what was a con is the whole point of it, I thought.

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Great logic that. "Couldn't be worse". Let's sign him up. While we're at it, let's trade for Richmond's 10th best player. Couldn't be worse than some of ours.

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Williams is a coach that understands the modern game.

Hes probably been at Port for abit too long... but his players do underdtand how to play footy though.

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Pros:

The biggest pro (and one people seem to be missing) is that instead of losing with Houlihan, O'Hailpin, Carrazzo, and Bentley in the team, we lost with Yarran, Austin, and Hampson in the team. Those 3 guys offer us a hell of a lot going forward, and the former four players offer us very little. We therefore took a small step toward improving the bottom in our side.... not a quick process, but one we have at least began working on immediately after the Hawthorn game. I hope the MC keeps working toward it.

Sitting near Warwick Capper who was wearing leopard-print jeans!

Cons:

I don't know which of our players will really, really work their backsides off to avoid a loss? Judd is one. Murphy is one. Kreuzer is one. And I think that Waite is probably one too. But the rest of them at the moment... forget about it.

I see why people who get to see the games live get frustrated. Our use of the wings and pockets is low percentage, takes too long, and is too easy to cut out. On the rare occasions we went through the guts we did ok... but almost every time we get the ball we look short and wide. It's extremely frustrating to watch live.

Stevens... a finished footballer in my opinion. Runs backwards 5 metres for a receive every time the ball goes near him.

Cloke, Wiggins, and Hadley - 'nuff said.

The most disappointing day since Ratten took over from Pagan in my view.

PROS:
Yarran's first quarter was fantastic to see - glides across the ground
The normal ones - Murphy, Kruezer, Judd
Waite was good too

CONS:
Skills out of defence
Nothing type possessions at half back in a terrible effort to 'set up'. I remember laughing at Richmond doing this in Round 1. You have 3 Blues within 20 metres of each other and they HAVE to handball to each other for no advantage. Scotland, Stevens, Im looking at you.
Scotland was very jittery
Lack of hard running
Lack of skills
Do we really have to lose to every team that clogs up our F50?
Fevola
Cloke and Wiggins not being able to have an impact again (Cloke's 5th goal from within 10 metres after HBR)
Losing another close one.
Start of the third quarter - failing to land one, failing to get to someone who could land one.

Con

3 or 4 links in the chain not giving a sh*t which is an insult to the late Dick Pratt.


Pro

Armfield. Yeah so he fluffed a few kicks, but he busted a gut running and breaking through the corridor trying do DO SOMETHING.

Judd and Kreuzer ALWAYS 100% committed.

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There's so much I could say...

and another con

People using the weak blame game re playing at the Gold Coast. That's such a pathetic copout.

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There's so much I could say...

Worse loss in post Pagan era - sloppy lacked intensity -dont understand why after all these years of beltings we are not hungry for success

Lost a third game under 7 points -NEVER TAKE OUR CHANCES - Kicking for goal we are more wasteful than any other team

50 ENTRIES -CONTINUALLY DONT SCORE FROM THEM

No sense of urgency

Overhyped - too many passengers

Absolutely no consistency of performance-one week up the next down - no excuses its a young team -leaders should be able to stand up and I dont mean Judd

Not a top 8 team at the moment and will miss the finals because of performances against Freo and Essendon*


Abysmal away record continues - we know in two weeks time Adelaide will choke the life out of us at AAMI -we will have plenty of shots and forward entries -but have another dishonourable loss - everyone is running out of excuses

Hooray. Someone that knows where we are at.

And whoever it was that said Yarran was soft, hang your head in shame. I thought he sensational in the 1qrt. He tapered of after that, but that's understandable having really just turned 18 and playing in your 1st game. From what I saw, the kids got it.

"That's what I'm Talking About"

..... with another 3 or 4 who work their backsides we'd be on our way. Add another half dozen or more to that and you'd be top 4. Week in week out it's always Judd, Murphy, Kruz then we get the odd cameo.

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Con: We lost so Synbad will be all over this place like shit on a blanket for the next week with his de-stabilisation campaign.

Pro: Enough people are on to him and his methods now that he won't be the pied piper like in years gone by.

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

How do i destabilise a football team thats promised us "They know were coming " and is falling in a disorganised mess Heavsy???

Im not in charge... im an observer...

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Please post your Pros & Cons only people.

Discussion can be found in the after game discussion thread.

And please stop needling each other.

What was different about this match was we lost despite the fact that many of us DID go in hard, the intensity was up. Tackles were around 70, contested possessions were higher than Freo, forward entries higher, shots at goal more etc, etc...
As distinct from the Ess & Syd games, we did not whimp out. We caused turnovers & goals from good tackling, including Yarran & Hampson.
But this just more clearly reveals the other problems (CONS) we have been worried about: EVERYONE needs to contribute and we have not yet improved our strategies for bringing the ball in to our forward line, since last year.

CONS
Contribution: Wallsy's bottom six problem refers to the bottom 6 on any given day, not just specific 6 players he mentioned. Yesterday, I would say most of our players put in. Some did not. Some did but not for the whole game: I thought Fev, Stevens, Wiggins, Cloke, Simpson, Hadley were our weakest, as regards effort. SImmo put in in bursts.

Strategy: I don't think the problem is Fev. It wouldn't matter who we had in there if we keep bringing it in like we are now, we will struggle to kick high scores. I think we do/did have a plan but it is not robust enough or not drilled well enough. Early on in the season, we had Fev & Cloke/Kruezer bringing the ball to ground where Betts, Garlett, Robinson, Houlihan were crumbing & with Murphy, Judd, Gibbs streaming through 50 and kick a goal or 2 each.
Now, we bring the ball slowly up the wings & then look for a pinpoint pass to a leading (or stationary) Fev. No speed into F50, no multi-directional leads, no crumbers, (Murphy, Judd, Gibbs still holding up their end of the bargain).

My wife, who just waltzed in & out during the telecast (very annoying..), says to me: "why is our forward line so busy and theirs is so clear?? Every time they get the ball, they kick a goal!"

PROS

Juddy, where oh where would we be without him?
Murph, Krooz, Waite, Gibbs.
Yarran gets a taste, another game into Aussie and Hammer.

CONS

Fev's I've-got-a-broken-finger-nail and I don't want-to-play-in-front-of-only-10,000-people routine
Cloke and his mates let us down again.
Really missing Wiggo's input during the past couple of weeks.
Losing to Flower Freo

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What forward line?

Tarrant getting big raps FFS

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I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

we are all looking at the bottom 6 but there were two in the top 6 that were very ordinary last night

one should have stayed in melbourne we would have been better off

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Pro:
We got $400k that

Con:
Was more than we deserved.
The only door getting knocked on at the moment is for Walls' Bottom 6.

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