not much slower than last week but freo do have a few speedsters

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Just looked at their team and we definitely have the edge in speed...

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No Clarke, McCormick or Morrell?

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peake worries me , schammer and hill have got some pace - ibbotson no slouch

im concerned this will play out like the bombers game

we go down the wings and they kill us with rebound through the corridor

happened in the bunbury game , happened against Essendon*

and freo will try and exploit us this way again too

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Reckon we've still got enough leg speed in the team with Judd, Eddie, Armfield, Joseph, Simmo, Russell and Yarran. Just need to play with intensity and use the corridor more than the wings to win this one. Great to see Austin and Hammer in the team, and good luck to Yarran

bondi, I'm not interested in rehashing an old argument on that particular game, you have your point of view I have mine.

But I do have to take you to task on the SOS analogy.

SOS played on the best forward week in week out for year in year out. In an era where the game was attacking and there were several of the best forwards the game has ever seen.

You know what?

I can forgive SOS getting 10 kicked on him a couple of times in a long career.

What is worse? Getting 10 kicked on you from a great forward when most other times you win or getting 4 or 5 goals kicked on you from a no-name hack?

You have got to put things in the proper perspective.

Houlihan was doing the one armed 'try hard' tackles again last week. Not good enough.

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As bad as it may sound, sometimes it's not always about putting in who's 'earned it'
Sometimes you have to go with talent. Put it this way. If we win a premiership with this generation of players it will be with Chris Yarran in it. I think they gave him something to think about by waiting a bit. For some players it can pay off to just throw them in the deep end and say show em what you can do. This is exactly the kind of move I want the MC to be taking.

Or we can put in someone who earnt a spot by playing good consistent footy in the 2's like Bentley....
I'd take talent anyday and I don't think I'd be alone.


I'm also flower excited about Austin. The difference these 2 could make (and Hammer) to the team and our structure with continued development will be huge

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Would actually like to know if ths is the tallest team we have played for a long time. 9 of the team are considered 'talls'. Weather is supposed to be fine,small amont of rain, so hopeully... .
The best thing about all this is the MC have answered the hoi polloi, in terms of picking Austin and Yarran. We can all wait with baited breath to see how they go. Bentely gone, happy with all, no second chance. Setants gone, happy with some. Cloke still there, but has some weight to stay in the team.

Feel that we could be top heavy, I only hope we haven't set ourselves up as a Jeff Fenech sway-doll.

Hampson can be pretty speedy and has worked up to spending much longer periods in the ruck. We have a few others who have got a bit of toe as well. Its also got a lot to do with getting the right match ups to be able to release our speedsters and frustrate theirs.

And then its about kicking straight, converting and limiting turnovers from hopefully fewer failed inside 50s. Really looking forward to this game. It is one we could lose if we are not switched on, but there has been no hint so far this season that the team has not run out motivated. Lots of competition for places being increasingly better managed by the MC. Plenty to play for this week. We have lost a couple of close ones but they know we're coming...

Just look at what happened last time we had four changes.

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I don't agree with this talk that we have picked a "slower" team this week

Carazzo -> Hadley. (similar)
O'Hailpin -> Hampson (Hampson quicker)
Bentley -> Austin (similar)
Houlihan -> Yarran (Yarran quicker)

A lot of TC'ers sound a little overconfident about this match IMO....I think we will win but it won't be easy.

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Hadley for Bentley is probably a pace upgrade doc because while the raw speed might be line-ball, Hadley knows where to run.

Hammer is an upgrade on Setanta for pace.

Yarran is an upgrade on Hoops for pace.

Austin is no Carrots, but releases Waite.

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I was at that game too. While I can't recall too many specifics (although I do remember getting Mr Pagan's autograph after the game ), the scoreline suggests that there wasn't a whole lot of defensive pressure from either team.

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He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

This week I'll park the car 'round the corner and turn the lights off so no b@stard interupts me following the game, unlike last week

Still it probably saved me from a coronary if I had been following those last few minutes live.

If we treat this side with respect we will beat them. Laisez faire attitude and they will hurt us. The four changes should be a positive effect in that regard.

Think the MC have made some costly errors this season and not sure if they have it right here. Bentley gets a single game which suggest they got it badly wrong last week. Hadley was b.o.g in 2s a couple of weeks back but was not brought back for Hawks, Bentley preferred, even tho Hadley would have seemed a great match up for Sewell, who, predictably was close to bog ag us. Not sure why you wouldn't play hadley ag Swans and Hawks but would ag. Freeo.

I think Yarran has oodles of class but suspect he is underdone, missed practice games and last weeks VFL, has played one good VFL game and several ordinary ones, I think he has star potential, but there is no hurry. Still I am excited to see him, even if I think it is a bit premature. Aussie has lots of potential. Seems odd that ag. Essendon* we lost a defender and replaced him with a mid and played Lloyd back to form. This time we have replaced a mid with a key defender.

I think Setanta is unlucky, was good ag. dogs and okay last week when asked to play half a dozen positions. Really he needs to be given a few weeks in one spot. and he was good ag. Pav last year.
Can't see why we would play Cloke, he is too slow as a forward and too short as a ruck, and can't play anywhere else, hardly think he will be the man to match up on Pav. Big K has starred as a ruckman. Good move bringing Hammo in but he should be replacing Cloke.

I actually think Houla is a bit unlucky too, but I guess Yarran is his replacement.

This is a must win game, and Freeo are no good away. I think 4 changes is too many. We were really good last week. Bit perturbed that we might be rushing players back in before they are ready.

Anyway be good to see Aussie and Yarran in the big time even if Yarran might be a bit underdone.

Exciting ins. But have a query on the height in the side. Cloke, Kreuzer, Hammer, Austin, Bower Waite Thornton Jamo Fev may be one or two talls too many against most teams. Freo have one giant and one star forward plus Johnson Mcpharlin and Tarrant, with Mundy and Murphy medium talls.

Austin and Cloke in the same fwd line might lack defensive pace. Yarran not known for forward pressure. Could be a waltz out of the backline for Freo. Makes me think Austin might start back though I prefer to see him forward. Especially if Kreuzer is to spend time forward.

Setanta is no star but would rather he got a solid block of games and give Cloke a "rest". Ideally by bringing in Austin and Hammer I'd have dropped Setanta (team balance) and Cloke and play Austin forward. Maybe the MC thought Setanta and Hammer is one too many "footy naive" talls to play at once.

Suppose Yarran for Houla is a straight swap - playing both might be too loose.

Hopefully Hads can contribute - since round 2 he's done nothing (whether he's played or not) and we've lost 3 from 4. I think there's some causation there.

I must admit I'm baffled with the way they handled Yarran. Given last week off in the 2's for tightness in the hammy and then brought straight in the following week to the seniors. Not sure if its right to bring him straight in for his first game after an injury cloud. And if they rested him before his first game it's just as weird. The fella has been talked about as needing to build match fitness yet they're resting him from Ants games to freshen him up for his debut.

Good to see some of the more consistent (according to those studs down at TalkingBullants) Ants players make their 2009 debut. Can't remember the last time Austin played.

Scotland, Hadley and now Houlihan, I would like to know what the specific reasoning behind these axings throughout the year. Could it be some kind of team rule that no one can evade, to get the absolute best out of the group. This has to be some kind of long term logic, because in the short term Houlihan could quite possibly play a crucial role if he was playing this week.

If you want to know why Houlihan was dropped watch the last half of the second quarter.

two incidents

1 ball is handballed to him and it bounces in front of him and he has to wait for it. Has a look fumble turnover

2 Ball kicked to within 15m of Hawthorn's goal with Thornton and Roughhead running with the flight of the ball . Houlihan running to the side of the contest and has the right position and momemtum to make a contest and punch the ball away. Takes a very short last step and provides a very soft contest. Instead of the ball been punched 10m forward it spills to the back goal to Williams.

Thats why he has been dropped and Stevo better take a note of it.

Yarran is in as a straight swap for Houlihan . I reckon the MC just want to play this bloke because he may be special as Bruce would put it. It would help if Yarran was told why Houlihan was dropped.

Maybe it wasn't hamstring tightness, maybe they just wanted to freshen him up and used that as an excuse.

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