Is it the team that's overrated or some individuals?

Watching Geelong tonight, there are NO passengers and everyone has a role and performs it well. 22 contributors, something we don't have.

The question for me is how many of our players fit in that side?

Fev, Judd, Betts maybe Waite?

In a year or so Gibbs, Murphy, Kruezer.

Anyone else?

The best teams have an even bunch of blokes with maybe 1 or 2 stars and the rest playing out of their skins. We play the best when there are NO standouts. Look at Collingwood, I hardly rate any of their players and they bust a gut week in week out and are coached so that there are no passengers. We have a list that is probably 70% there but Ratten struggles to get the best out of them when the pressure is on.

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Are u blaming Ratts or the players?

Both, Ratts got outcoached badly last week and this week. No plan B and I still struggle to understand what sort of game plan he is trying to adopt. Why would you play chip style, 'non tempo' footy against a team that everyone knows will strangle you if you dont use pace? Did we ever go up the middle of the ground, were any players told to run with the ball carrier and where the hell was our sheparding?
And this on a ground that with two kicks you are in the forward line. AGAIN no switch by Ratts when our forward line wasnt working. Drop Kruez in there after half time and create some pressure on them.

From the players side, way too many passengers and not nearly enough intensity.

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We're doomed! Ain't it great!

I'll keep it short and sweet:

1. If Browne isn't a better bet down back than Johnson I'm mentally retarded (mods watch for responses) and know nothing about AFL football. Next week, please!!!

2. Cloke out, Kreuze to CHF. Too slow, enough is enough. Kreuze will give us just as good a contest, too. A 100% fair dinkum footballer. Hammer in to ruck with Jacobs and throw in Kreuze for the odd cameo. I'll be flowered if Kreuze won't straighten us up going forward. Looked sensational at times forward last year. Hammer a nice forward option , too.

3. Hads on shaky ground and didn't see it coming. Carrots/Scotland a real chance to get his spot. Stevo to the guts. We will just go nowhere keeping him down back, for reasons made obvious by so many other posters. Fantasyland, Ratts.

That is all.

This is so true. Would back our list any day against Pies (won twice v them last yr), yet how on earth can they CONSISTENTLY keep beating the Swans in Sydney. FFS, Brions last night, too. If only we had their mental toughness (can't believe I just said that). Though it is only limited, they play to their potential far more than us and it is galling.

I think well beat the Doggies next week, we are their bogey side.

If we win one of the next 2 and are 3-3 before playing freo, we are well placed to make the 8

but 'THEY KNOW WE'RE COMING' so we are the hunted ones

Its a marketing slogan

Not when its mentioned and mocked everyday on radio programs or when your rival make a point out of that we are going no where.

It had potential to backfire just like Ian Coutts brilliant decision agreeing to have Juddy, Murph, Gibbs and Stevo take a photo shot for a rubbish article thats setting us up.

Who the bloody hell is running this club Ian Coutts?? cause its definitely not the puppet Brett Ratten

If the club are going to Talk the talk now Walk the walk....................................

The players didn't come up with the slogan so you cant blame them for it.

We didn't loose because of our marketing

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our club song needs to be corrected as well.

The players should have been instructed to watch the Cats tonight - a team that has been successful however can still manage to fire up week to week. We win two games and it seems some players think they have arrived!!! Big egos, piss weak effort today - we have proved nothing and if we don't start winning soon we will become a laughing stock with "They know we are coming"

For the last two weeks there was an opportunity for someone to stand up up and take the game on and unfortunately there were no takers. If we had played the Cats or Saints I could accept it but not against an injury riddled Bombers or Swans.

If we are the real thing we should have won both games. Rome wasn't built in one day but we have some real weaknesses that need to be addressed before we are the real thing.

Biggest weakness is the on field structures positionings linkages ........

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By not having to play them at the SCG.

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SIDE BY SIDE
COOOOOLLLLLIIIINGWOOOOOOOD

i'm sure Ratts is open to suggestions.

What plan B would you suggest?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Teams weave a web and we get caught in them all say long.

Our players stop, prop, go sideways, look back, chips short but noone runs.

Its just one static disorganised mess out there.

Judd tries to make things happen by always being on the move.Then they sit on him so youd think theres more space for others.

In our defensive third of the ground we chip this way and we chip that way led by the defensive general Thornton.

I reckon we have way too many players infatuated with clever possession footy and noone running hard.

The mre you ship sideways and back the more time there is for that flood to become bigger.

The quicker you move the ball on.. and we dont ever roll the dice. Our players are hardly ever taking risks and same with the coaching box.

Too safe???

No reward...

Lose 2 winnable gaes with a list of talent much better than the oppositions.

Overated no... underachiveing and underperforming yes..

Unless things go our way we dont know what to do.
We start off well.. the opposition coach makes a few moves at 1/4 times and we cant cope...
I actually had hopes for this team this year.. still might happen but when you watch them you cant see it.

Clueless strcutures... clueless linkages... and terrible work rate

There is little modern day thught put into our game structures.

Its just the same as the past.

Even under Pagan we looked good in some games where it was played in open fashion.

But against teams that could close it down... we had no clue then and we have no clue now.

Underachieving underperforming mess!

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Let me get this straight. When we lose Ratts is outcoached when we win he outcoached the other coach?

Is that it.

So far the only thing i have read that makes sense is CJ69 saying we should have left out one of the talls. The rest of the rubbish posted by blokes in hindsight on this sight is just crap that has nothing to back it up.

Ratts has a gameplan that he wants us to play. The way i see it is that when the players play it correctly we look good (part from the bad converting). When the players lose their way (probably mentally) then we fall apart. Ratts is well within his rights while developing a young team to stick to the game plan he wants them to play. They will learn more.

You never see Thompson,ROos, Clarkson change it up. They stick to what they believe in.

We will be a good team. For now its 3 steps forward - 2 steps back.

We are only overrated by those who got ahead of themselves. Nothing to do with Carlton.

We are still coming.