Pro - Judd but not much else
Ratten can now sweep some changes we have other players who can replace those who dont work hard enough.

Con - Loosing to that crap mob
We should have won / where expected to win ... Perhaps if the players put the intesity they put in the first round they would easily have won.

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CFC TAC Squad everyone over 25 must be traded sounds like Loguns Run

Having a hard nut in the middle doesn't help when the whole team plays dumb footy, that's what cost us.
Having a hard nut in the middle doesn't help when the entire team isn't working hard and manning up.

How many times was Lovett 30m in the clear?
How many times were Essendon* able to handball around in circles to unmarked players while Carlton players chased helplessly like kids in the middle of a game of keepings off?

Hard nuts in the middle don't fix that sort of stupid football.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Pros:

Judd
Jacobs is getting better
Kreuzer is relentless in his efforts to win

Cons:

Sucked in by all the hype ... cringed when I saw the fab 4 article in this morning herald sun
We hit 27 points in front then started walking ... our work rate off the ball was terrible
we played the gamer on their terms ... they forced us wide and they are happy to play the game on the outside

Very surprised by our set up, thought we played into their hands.

Happy to see stevens in, but somewhat concerned that we did not bolster our backline by adding another tall (setanta was mentioned). If the theory was to add run through the half back thats ok, but use it!! We proped and waited for others to break out before the pass was made, nobody pushing from behind to create the run through the middle. Don't think this was offensive presure, we had plenty of time to hit targets, we were to reluctant to move it forward quickly.

Thought that we did not create any particular problems for the Essendon*'s coaches box. Would liked to have seen gibbs thrown forward pushing grigg down dack and if we did have another tall (setanta), allow waite forward. Even without setanta, we seemed to labour with cloke up forward, seldomly seeing he and kreuzer switching roles.

Disappointed that the game was lost between the ears, both by the players and the MC. Hope we learn this time.

There pace was an advantage and by going man on man in the second quarter they knew they could get on top of us with this.

And Wojee no doubt we did not play as a team but a hard nut would have made a big difference. Presence is what we lacked, other than Judd who kept us in the game but when he went off for a rest they would one or two back. No other midfielder had any presence on the game tonight especially when the going gets tough

I always said that is this game is going to be a shoot out we will lose. The second quarter they made it a contest, we hate contest cause we lack players in the middle who thrive on it when its tight and tough

If Chris Judd has to go in and continue winning the contested possession then we are going nowhere in a hurry. Juddy should be able to be more damaging and use his run more than getting smashed everytime to win the contested ball

Oh look over there, a baby in amongst the bath water that has been thrown over the turnips.

We played terribly poorly tonight and Essendon* played as well as they could.

They had everything going for them - we kicked poorly, did not apply enough pressure and there were a few decisions that went against us.

There were a few errors at the selection table and yes probably a few errors in the coaching box.

We lost by 4 points.

We still have a huge amount of upside - Essendon* do not.

But the usualy suspects can splash about with the baby and the bath water and play with themselves amongst the turnips.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

spot on

i thought we where rubbish tonight. i was filthy on or performance. I dont care about the umps (they where rubbish) i dont care about fev kicking 4.7 (i think it was)

we where plan rubbish tonight ... but a positive in that, is we played probably as bad as we could, and lost to a team who played as good as they could. After quarter time their accuracy was freakish, 15 goals 3 points in the 2nd & 3rd qarter. and we lost by 4 points. fev kicks 6.5 we win, umpire doesnt pay the softest free kick to davey (who i reckon is just rubbish - his only ability is to run fast and takle from behind - he is poo) in history, we win.

all the while, the side was playing like a pack of mugs. no hard running, no pressure on the ball carrier. that was what cost us the game. and in the first two games,that was what we did so well.

we thoght we where going to stroll it in we didnt show our opponent anywhere near enough respect, and it cost us dearly.

we are a miles better side that what we played today, and depsite the result im still very confident we can beat the swans.

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

The writting was on the wall last week, Robbo struggled until the last quarter and Garlett struggled - Yet we dropped Scotland. Jamieson is out injured and we bring in two mids (Stevens is not a defender)

Knights out coached us - He managed to keep Waite deep in defence and we lost all his drive. Setanta should have played - he would have roughed up Ployd and allowed Waite to play further up the ground.

Robbo was lost in the last quarter, he was playing on the ball he he did not play defensive at all. Instead we had one of our best clearance players in Stevens in the back line. Waite should have been moved as well. The signs were not good and yes we only lost by 4 points however rather than hoping to pinch the game changes should have been made.

Pro

- Judd
- Sauce and Joseph keep improving - Joseph may have made a couple of errors however he was one player that had the pace to keep up with the Dons quick.


Con

- Not hungry enough
- Playing like millionares at times
- What have we achieved two wins and it seems some players are not hungry enough for success

Cons:
-fev's kicking
-garlett and robbo were pretty quiet
-tackling was shocking, just ran right through us.
-having to put up with an absolutely filthy Essendon* supporter behind me. i was with a mate (stkilda supporter), and the bloke behind me was yelling at the top of his lungs at just about every decision against them. he was swearing heaps, whilst with his young children, who looked about 5. When one decision set him off, he kicked the chair of my mate pretty damn hard, and everyone around us was looking at him. my mate said (in a reasonable manner) "come on mate, settle down". he started saying stuff like, "you wanna @#$%&! go? cmon, me and you, i'll smash you, whats your problem". keeping in mind that his young children are right next to him at the time. man i hate the bombers

Pros:
-said hi to clokey and shook his hand after the game
-juddy giving his all.

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"You don’t get much more Navy Blue than Stephen Kernahan" - Marc Murphy

Garlett for Scotland wasn't the mistake any man and his dog and anyone else would have seen we needed a extra tall in defense guys like Hartlett and Edwards definitely need to play defence in the bullants all year.

They say he can really play,lets see it soon i hope,because they pretty much not going to likely make forwards.

I think even Fisher should have a go in defense,has the size and is a great mark.

I think We will get a beaten if another defender goes down. Fisher should have come in,has great hands,could have played forward and rotated with Cloke.

We recruited well with midfield players and small defenders and small forwards and have depth in the list but there a few problems in the tall department for defense when 1 goes down.

I know we have Ohailipin,Hartlett,Austin all over 190cm surely need one to stand up soon and come in.

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Bang Bang.

We still have a huge amount of upside - Essendon* do not. They not a bad side, so they might lose Lloyd ,Lucas and Fletcher soon ,they still have a lot of good young players. I knew those pricks would spoil my week but not more then the umpires. They better be lucky they didn't cost a lot of money to any underworld figure gambling.lol.

Oh well there is next week Pro Judd ,Wiggins, Houilhan kreuzer , Murphy

Cons Stevens didn't think he deserved a game this week,didn't do enough last week to get his spot reading the report of the game,Browne did. Gibbs must have been ill,wasn't like him to be quiet, Johnson wasn't the player of the 2 games before.

Camporeale High Five their Coach, everyone jumps in the back of Hamill for taking off but he didn't take off when we were down.

The way this guy went pissed me really off when the going got tough and rubbed it in. In my opinion he is the biggest disgrace to play 200 games for us. I hope Grigg becomes a champion and scribble the name above him of the locker,lol.

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Bang Bang.

pros - need to see a really good one (i.e a professional!) to get me over this depression.

con - want to go home kick the dog, beat the wife and shoot myself in the head. Have not been this upset with the boys for such a long time ... even in the darkest years there were reasons to explain such a woeful performance. Today the boys really let down all the die hard supporters. They believed thier own hype, forgot what got them off to a great start and sucked the heart out of all the blue believers.

A loss to a genuine finals contender with a spirited effort can be forgiven but what happenned today was just downright take them out the back and beat them like a red headed child material.

I could harp on about where we lost but in the end we were outplayed and out coached by an inferior team and coach. AND TO LOSE TO THE SCUM AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GEEZ blueboys you really have taken the wind out of my sails.

I do not mind losing but not like this!

Pros
Judd
Jacobs
Joseph made a few blues but will be a player

Cons
too many to mention but not playing Carlos was massive Waite is not a body on body defender
Bower seems to have lost confidence
When having a bad game Gibbs needs to work harder defensively
Stevens was ok but he is not a defender.
Houlihan despite a couple of goals will always lack intensity when the chips are down
Johnson is not up to it. Armfield and Browne are better options
Cloke wont be the second option up forward. Kreuzer up forward bring in Hammer
Russell. How anyone thinks this guy is up to it is unbelievable. Houilhan was free for ever on the flank and Russell didnt see him for about 10 seconds. It probably cost us a goal. He simply sees only about 25m infront of himself. There are players in the twos that could do the tagging jobs Russell does with better footy nous yet Russell continues to get a game.
Had to wide to get shots at goal. To indirect. Deserved to lose. Esssendon put in a better team peformance.



Overall poor intensity and a few big heads.
Essendon* have some good young kids in their team. Might suprise a few this year.
Big week by the MC

We didnt lose the game because we didnt play another tall.
We lost it through the middle and with the coaching.

We had a breakdown in the fundamentals .

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Pros: I'm filthy about a loss for the first time since 2001.
Judd
Joseph
We won't play worse, and we still only lost by 4 points
Games against the Swans, Hawks, and Doggies should bring our focus back to the fundamentals

Cons: How do we manage to have our pants pulled down time and again by a second rate side? Disgraceful
Stevens. Watching the last three seasons of Lance's career almost used to amuse me. It was a case of wondering how Pagan was going to 'hide' Lance on the field this week. Stevens is quickly falling into the same category - where his strengths go nowhere near covering his deficiencies. Every time he had the ball, I felt like I was watching Carlton circa 2008 and not Carlton circa 2009. He still bombs long to Fev, or he holds up the ball and we lose our run. Combine that with a lack of defensive ability, and a lack of pace, and the fact that he has to show leadership as a vice captain, and we have a bloke who just cannot set an example for his younger teammates. We just cannot carry a player with such a complete lack of accountability. I'll watch with interest next week to see exactly where Ratts tries to hide him. Personally I'd try Preston, but I know it won't happen.

PS. Melvey - given you partially attribute the loss to a lack of pace, exactly how does Rich help our situation?

We thought we would win in the middle and not have to worry about defensive rebound. Not having Carlos in the side robbed us of Waite as an attacking force and add to that the lazy, selfish efforts after qurter time and a dose of of crap umpiring and the result is understandable

Pros: Judd again

Cons: Attitude and application levels

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C'mon Blueboys!

Pros:

Judd - probably the only winner on the night and we only lost by 4 points
Was exciting being there, atmosphere was electric
Thornton throwing his body on the line against Lloyd, how it was a free kick I will never know.
Betts
Jamo told me he was a real chance to play next week.

Cons:

Losing to Essendon*
Tackling - we cannot have Stevens, Houlihan, Garlett in the same side
Losing top spot
Lloyd doing well
Selections - We are so much better with Waite as an attacking option. Introducing both Grigg and Stevens at once was a mistake.
Should of put them away early

But that's why we've got Hadley Besides, Essendon* knows they're inside our heads-no point discussing how much more talented we are, compared to them. Our start was encouraging but I sensed an anxiety on the part of the CFC players to try and blow the game open. And when Essendon* had those two run-ons, we were powerless to stop.......need for a Game B or C......

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Be positive to all those @ TC- the wait is almost over!

Pros:
Judd
Joseph
Stevens
Jacobs
Wiggins

Cons:
Johnson must be a gun trainer

Cons:

People acting like we lost by ten goals.