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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:29 pm 
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Back for the finals if we make them.

.........or hold him off until next year to make sure he is 100% ready to go.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:49 pm 
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I have a funny feeling that he is yet to have a full reconstruction so far....

Not the one you or I would get; according to one of the articles floating about he had some bone inserted to support the shoulder and prevent it from popping out rather than having the thing fully reconstructed, which affects the range of the joint.

Sound enough choice given the impact it would have on his overhead marking ability, but he's rarely had one stick his whole career. Might be time to bite the bullet there.



Interesting op he had, never heard of that type of method.

So the question still stands:

Has Walker had the conventional reconstruction yet??


Fantastic news about Jamo.....At least something went the right way!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:25 pm 
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Firearm Fevs wrote:
Has Walker had the conventional reconstruction yet??


It was mentioned in an article that he has never had a complete reco as it will restrict his movement and is pretty much a last resort.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:52 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:15 pm 
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hence the reason why you play all your best players together when you can, because this is the sort of shit that can happen.

What are you trying to insinuate? That Carlton exposed him to unnecessary risk by playing him in a VFL practice game rather than an actual home-and-away fixture against a notoriously tough and physical side?...



I don't know, it's a long call, but perhaps AW was trying too hard to impress instead of merely what is asked of him? :?


What a load of shit. So he'd try less hard in the firsts?


He might not need to. It's a team game and psychologically, unlike in the 'ressies', you wouldn't be subconsciously thinking of ways to impress the MC, especially if you were in Andrew Walkers situation.

I'm only playing devil's advocate and did not write the first post nor did I feel the need to write something similar. But if you were in a frustrated mood I can imagine the irony of the situation getting the better of you.



Just to clarify, i wasn't insinuating anything. My point being that when you have a chance to play your best side together you take it, because it is very very rare that you get a chance in this game to put your 'best' 22 on the park. If Grigg and Walker had played on Saturday night the only player missing from our best 22 IMO would have been Stevo. Walks shoulder probably would have gone if not Saturday night at some stage in the near future, but that wasn't to be know on Thursday at the selection table. That's all i was saying nothing more nothing less

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:28 pm 
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Melvey wrote:
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Has Walker had the conventional reconstruction yet??


It was mentioned in an article that he has never had a complete reco as it will restrict his movement and is pretty much a last resort.


Ok...I am happy for him to lose some flexability as he is good enough to adapt...

Chin up Walks, your not the first, you won't be the last, and many players have come back to have stellar careers from where you are at.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:38 pm 
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Some poor buggers just dont get a break and Walks is one of those guys!!!! :banghead:
I was really hoping Walks was gonna rip it up this season i guess we'll now have to wait until next year.The Blues are a young up an coming team on the rise and i'm damn sure when Walks is fully fit and comes banging on the selection door it'll always be left ajar for a "gun" player like him.
The supporters love you,the club loves you,we hope you have a speedy recovery mate :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:40 pm 
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Silvagni had one shoulder reconstructed at the end of '88 and the other at the end of '95. All hope is not lost. He's young enough to still have a long career ahead.


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He still has his athletic qualities so I don't think his career is in jeopardy as such.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:06 pm 
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At least we now know what is ahead. We can all begin the healing process.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:16 am 
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Walks, on the bright side mate you're only 22 and as you can see there's plenty of people on this site as well as thousands of others wishing you a successful operation and speedy recovery. You're being looked after by one of the best in the business. I'm sure that some of the club greats who have gone through similar pain and self doubt will get you through this. I remember Dean Rice being absolutely devastated after re-injuring his knee in his first game for Carlton (after having injured it at St Kilda). The rest is history. Mental toughness, physical toughness. Best wishes Walks. We're all looking forward to seeing you in 2010.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:55 am 
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Silvagni had one shoulder reconstructed at the end of '88 and the other at the end of '95. All hope is not lost. He's young enough to still have a long career ahead.


I think SOS had 11 major operations. I think he had a couple of shoulder recos, 1 knee reco, 1 major job on his ankle, had his hammy screwed back onto his femur and a few others.

As stated by others ther Juddernaut had a lot of shoulder problems and look at him go now. Hopefully, all hope is not lost.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:03 am 
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True true Geno. Full knee reco. Think he may have dislocated his ankle. And who could forget when he tore the hamstring?

Still managed to play 300 games, and was about Walkers age when he had his first shoulder reconstruction.

Best he gets the operation done and gets it right once and for all.


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Geno wrote:
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Silvagni had one shoulder reconstructed at the end of '88 and the other at the end of '95. All hope is not lost. He's young enough to still have a long career ahead.


I think SOS had 11 major operations. I think he had a couple of shoulder recos, 1 knee reco, 1 major job on his ankle, had his hammy screwed back onto his femur and a few others.

As stated by others ther Juddernaut had a lot of shoulder problems and look at him go now. Hopefully, all hope is not lost.


And lost his left nut to boot

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:43 am 
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To whose boot............?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:40 am 
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Sam Lane writes WALKERS SEASON IS OVER...........

CARLTON'S Andrew Walker is out for the year and will have a major operation tomorrow in a bid to mend his repeatedly troublesome shoulder.

Dr Greg Hoy, regarded as one of the pre-eminent shoulder surgeons in Australia, recommended the Bristow-Latarjet procedure as the best option for the dejected 22-year-old who learned yesterday that, for the second consecutive year, his season was ruined.

While the Bristow-Latarjet procedure has been practised for some time, it is rarely employed in the first instance because the nature of the surgery means that a patient's shoulder movement will be permanently restricted.

The up-side is that the shoulder joint is tightened so much that the likelihood of another dislocation is limited. When he resumes playing, Walker will have to learn to adapt to his physical limitations.

"He's obviously very disappointed and frustrated, but now that he's met with Greg he's very optimistic about this operation and the procedure that will be performed," Carlton football manager Steven Icke said yesterday.

"It involves a bone graft that's used to block the movement of the shoulder. It's a procedure that will probably, to some degree, limit his flexibility, but it will certainly help to limit any further dislocations."


http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews ... 06877.html


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:20 am 
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Noonamah Blue wrote:

ABSOLUTE NONSENSE


I'm just throwing a topic up there for discussion


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:21 am 
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It's an old-school op from what I've just been reading. They typically give it to people who have regular subluxations or dislocations where the shoulder is popping out in a direction forward of the body.

Wasn't able to get much in the way of figures, but he might be losing around 15 - 20 degrees of motion. Not as bad as I first thought.

It sounds very similar to the surgery Jamison has already had.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:39 am 
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Clokey has done the surgery and so far so good. No reason for it not to be a success for AW.
Keeping everything crossed because I want to see him a "premiership player within the Navy Blue".
Keep the chin up Andy.


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