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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:52 pm 
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FMD most upsetting Carlton injury since Kouta in the Richmond final 2001

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best wishes to Walks.


Agreed. Poor bugger. :sad:

Hope he gets himself right, however long it takes, and is back on the field as soon as possible ready to enjoy the rewards he deserves.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:19 pm 
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hence the reason why you play all your best players together when you can, because this is the sort of shit that can happen.

What are you trying to insinuate? That Carlton exposed him to unnecessary risk by playing him in a VFL practice game rather than an actual home-and-away fixture against a notoriously tough and physical side?...



I don't know, it's a long call, but perhaps AW was trying too hard to impress instead of merely what is asked of him? :?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:27 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
TenOutOfTen wrote:
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hence the reason why you play all your best players together when you can, because this is the sort of shit that can happen.

What are you trying to insinuate? That Carlton exposed him to unnecessary risk by playing him in a VFL practice game rather than an actual home-and-away fixture against a notoriously tough and physical side?...



I don't know, it's a long call, but perhaps AW was trying too hard to impress instead of merely what is asked of him? :?


What a load of shit. So he'd try less hard in the firsts?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:48 pm 
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AK43 wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
TenOutOfTen wrote:
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hence the reason why you play all your best players together when you can, because this is the sort of shit that can happen.

What are you trying to insinuate? That Carlton exposed him to unnecessary risk by playing him in a VFL practice game rather than an actual home-and-away fixture against a notoriously tough and physical side?...



I don't know, it's a long call, but perhaps AW was trying too hard to impress instead of merely what is asked of him? :?


What a load of shit. So he'd try less hard in the firsts?


He might not need to. It's a team game and psychologically, unlike in the 'ressies', you wouldn't be subconsciously thinking of ways to impress the MC, especially if you were in Andrew Walkers situation.

I'm only playing devil's advocate and did not write the first post nor did I feel the need to write something similar. But if you were in a frustrated mood I can imagine the irony of the situation getting the better of you.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:54 pm 
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Firstly could you explain the ironic aspect of this to me. Secondly could you explain how trying too hard can dislocate your shoulder. In plain English please.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:06 pm 
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Doc Larkin said on the footyshow that it could be Walkers 4th reco and that he should be very concerned

How many recos has he had and have they been complete reconstructions


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:18 pm 
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Doc Larkin said on the footyshow that it could be Walkers 4th reco and that he should be very concerned

How many recos has he had and have they been complete reconstructions


I think he has had 4 shoulder injuries not 4 reco's.


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I have a funny feeling that he is yet to have a full reconstruction so far....

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I have a funny feeling that he is yet to have a full reconstruction so far....
Operations, yes. But I agree, I don't recall a full reconstruction ever being done. Either way, no time like the present.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:03 pm 
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McKay debuted at 23, so there's plenty of time for Walker to get his body right and be part of our next great era.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:08 pm 
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Melvey wrote:
Doc Larkin said on the footyshow that it could be Walkers 4th reco and that he should be very concerned

How many recos has he had and have they been complete reconstructions


I saw that as well. Larkins is normally well informed, so I was a bit taken aback by his negativity. I'm pretty confident he had a reconstruction last year though after previously trying to manage the issue to no avail


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Here's some confirmation of the 2008 reco:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=71500


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Firearm Fevs wrote:
I have a funny feeling that he is yet to have a full reconstruction so far....

Not the one you or I would get; according to one of the articles floating about he had some bone inserted to support the shoulder and prevent it from popping out rather than having the thing fully reconstructed, which affects the range of the joint.

Sound enough choice given the impact it would have on his overhead marking ability, but he's rarely had one stick his whole career. Might be time to bite the bullet there.

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Definitely need to persist with Walker IMO. Look at all the problems Cloke has had with his shoulder but seems to have overcome the problem and is playing some decent footy.


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The most devasting injury news that I learnt about in a long while.

I was really looking forward to Walks coming back into this squad, as he is exciting and can really be the x-factor in our team when fit.

Does anyone think it could be the surgeon who is at fault here, as Walks is having continuous problems with his shoulders, and also Jamo is having continuous problems with his shoulders, and I just wonder if its incompetence on the surgeons behalf ...


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Season according to SEN. Jamo 3 weeks.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:37 pm 
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No shock there about Tex but great news re Jamo if true.

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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html

But the news was better for Blues fans regarding key defender Michael Jamison.

The 22-year-old injured his shoulder early on Saturday night against the Brisbane Lions. But after visiting his specialist today it was decided the club would take a conservative approach to manage the injury.

He had treatment today, will not have an operation and is expected to resume playing in two to three weeks.

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The most devasting injury news that I learnt about in a long while.

I was really looking forward to Walks coming back into this squad, as he is exciting and can really be the x-factor in our team when fit.

Does anyone think it could be the surgeon who is at fault here, as Walks is having continuous problems with his shoulders, and also Jamo is having continuous problems with his shoulders, and I just wonder if its incompetence on the surgeons behalf ...


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Noonamah Blue wrote:
gsker1 wrote:
The most devasting injury news that I learnt about in a long while.

I was really looking forward to Walks coming back into this squad, as he is exciting and can really be the x-factor in our team when fit.

Does anyone think it could be the surgeon who is at fault here, as Walks is having continuous problems with his shoulders, and also Jamo is having continuous problems with his shoulders, and I just wonder if its incompetence on the surgeons behalf ...


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Perfectly natural question to ask.

I would say by the way Walker has had a set of straps used during pre-season to adjust his shoulder movement while running, it is likely his issues stem from his style. From memory Jamo tucks his shoulders a bit when he gets going, and that would put a bit of stress through them as you swing them along with your stride, a few solid bumps (which would be a defender's bread and butter) and problems would arise a bit easier for him than most.

Just my observation though.

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