We could have picked Leuenberger but we got Gibbs.

Rich is an onballer and that's it. Yarran will be a brilliant goal kicker and an onballer in years to come.

I guess we will agree to disagree again.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Robbo was good too...33 points to 3qtr time then sat at the half back flank for a while getting cheapies.

JR had a few costly clangers but he held Johnstone very well like last year. If he is playing the role the coaches want him to play then besides one or two clangers you can't bag him.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Pros Jacobs is a smart footballer
Fev stepped up when it counted
Robinson ditto
Thornton was terrific on Brown who for a star player does not chase
Kreuzer was great
I got Gibbs at 200s for the Brownlow. Should have put more than 20 on him
Murphy
Betts 1st half
Judds second quarter
I love Joseph

Cons
Russell played well on Johnson but Johnson is a lazy footballer.Russell is not a smart player. Did his job tonight but wil forever make bad decisions under pressure more than your average player.
Jammo and Walkers injury
Gartlett is good but needs to play twos for a while until he beefs up

Pro

Multi- dimension forward line- they now look for clokey- going in

Betts one of the best forward pockets in the game

Grunt of our ruckmen we have been intimidated by Charman for years

Midfielders kicking goals

Murph now wants to take the responsibility of kicking the goals

Resilience /toughness of Murph


JUDD - Different player but influences the game like Greg Williams

Backline - thorton terrific - the good waite tonight

Cameo of Hollywood Fevola in the last

Houlihan continues to impress

GIBBS

Complaining when we dont win by a lot

Cons

Brown your better than that

Injury to Jamo

Losing 48 point lead

I think the Lions are filthy on Murphy.

They wined & dined him & he gave them the khyber.

I remember Copeland fixed him up in his first year & now Brown has a crack

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

I agree with that. JR has been very good through the pre-season and for the first two games. He commits the odd clanger, but so does Juddy. It happens.

Has become a good AFL player. May never become absolute elite, but he is versatile, committed and has the ability to play 150+ games. Too many guys ready to jump all over him.

Another PRO : Kreuzer - had a very big impact.... very impressive!

CON: When I booked to go to a cousin's wedding out of Perth this Easter weekend, I booked a side trip to Melbourne for the Thursday night game.... Yes - I cocked up my weeks so I get Collingwood v Geelong, instead of Carlton v anyone like I thought.... I don't think that game's going to excite me as much as seeing the boys in action!!

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Now stalking Carlton on Twitter and Facebook!

I post very rarely, yet read the posts on this site every day, but feel that credit should be given where due.
Travis Johnstone caned WCE last week, this week, half as effective, half the disposals, due to his opponent.
I have been known to malign JR as much, maybe more than most. But let's look at this objectively - no-one thinks twice about the mark Judd dropped while clear tonight. No-one thinks twice about the punch over the boundary line by Judd tonight when he could have easily have marked the ball. If both of those incidents had have been actioned by JR, there would have been calls for him to be axed permanently.
Regardless of supercoach/dreamteam points, which show JR played a good game, the lad did well tonight. Every single player doesn't leave the field without making mistakes (see Luke Hodge in their game tonight), so look at his game in its entirety.
He played well, and was a reason why we won.
Here endeth the rant.

I wouldn't call that a rant Smiley ...it was a rational, thought out post.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

So you're guaranteeing Yarran's future success as a brilliant goal kicking midfielder Cazzesman?

I understand you're defending the kid, and Hughes, against people who can't see beyond the tip of their nose but surely there are no guarantees in football. Even Rich, as good as he's looking, isn't a guaranteed star. A lot of people declared Rhys Palmer a certain superstar last year based on his performances but I personally doubt that will ever happen. I think Rich is a better player than Palmer but who knows how he'll turn out?

You're are wasting your time Smiley. The anti JR tribe are so amazingly bias they actually will him to fail with every possession. Their collective negativity at his slightest error is bordering on being akin to those feral Richmond supporters.

I suspect they high 5 each other when he misses a target.

They call themselves Carlton supporters. I just can't see it to tell you the truth.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Whats with the point scoring on first round draft picks - mines bigger than yours shit.


Lets give Yarran a chance before we rate them.


Lets celebrate the fact we were challenged and came back strongly and won the game.

Still plenty of upside to take on Scum next week.

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Winston Churchill

Well put!

There are no guarantees as you state but I'm happy with my post. Feel free to bring it up in 3 or 4 years time and we can revisit my thoughts. Rich is an obvious talent but so is Yarran.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

And that chap Judd also kicked one out on the full- Drop him

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

Hopefully all goes well and in four years time I'll have a memory of a Carlton premiership win or two. If that does happen I doubt I'll be too worried about the mertis of one selection five years in the past

okay I'm pissed, last to leave the bar at the social clun

Pros
But

JR - ANY ONE WHO DOES NOT PLACE HIM IN THE PROS IS A @#$%&! DILL - JR slayed Johnstone.

Garlett - did the flower even watch the game - when we were [REDACTED], he was the one we could go to. Honestly watch th @#$%&! game!

Joey - what a player!!!!!

The Kruise - Kucking gun

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Who was the genius who decided to recruit Hadley?
You should be knighted!
He's a gun!

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I see you watching me watching you.

CONS : we could drop to 3rd if the dogs and power win comfortably tomorrow

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Good post mate. Russell is a bit of a whipping boy but he is starting to come good. The club must rate him too as they could have let him go when they had the chance.