Drop Houlihan Some people just can't ged rid of their preconceived ideas, he was very good last night. Even laid 6 tackles

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All depends on what we see from the Lions to be honest. Armfield to come in if Hooper, Harding and co play well and look quick in their forward line. Similar teams in my opinion - hard at it, good in close and plenty of goal kickers. At who's expense? Even though the coach thought he was fantastic in his first game - Jeffery would probably be the one imo...but only due to matchups against a better skilled and disciplined team.

I don't think the question specifically related to next week, but for the sake of discussion I would drop Russell for Walker and Johnson for Armfield... not sure who for Grigg, although Eddie might make that a given.

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Shouldn't be too much of a concern.

We'll get injuries and suspensions along the way, so it's great to have depth. Impossible to be a top 4 team without quality players outside your best 22, because you never get your best 22 on the field anyway.

But unless we get some major injuries or form lapses from the likes of Robbo, I reckon Fish will seriously struggle. Garlett will probably get tired reasonably quickly, and Walker will come in for Waite who has 90 carryover points hanging over his head, and is sure to smash someone sooner or later

But if we had to bring back walker and stevens immediately, I'd go:

Joseph - Walker
Johnson - Stevens

The young blokes will need to be rotated. Garlett was great but he tired during the game and some of his efforts late that of a spent young man. He has great future but i can see him making way for walker. Not sure how we get grigg into last nights side but we need him in.

I like russell and reckon he does his job well. Can adapt to fwd or back instantly. Gutted he played on a missed in the second but made up for it with a nice snap later. Wouldnt drop him.

Johnson for stevens. If only we could sub him (CJ) into the team for kickouts only.

I am sure injuries will come up and blokes like Browne, Armfield and Hampson will get a turn.

Carazzo? Not sure how we get him in or if we actually need him in.


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Makes sense. Drop an elusive will o the wisp forward for a midfielder/hbf; drop Houlihan who had 29 touches; and drop a CHB for a wingman. I think that'll fly. Oh, and also, we'll have 4 changes in a side that won by 83 points.

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What a great dilemma to have.
Russell is growing by the week and to me he would be one I would be uneasy in ommitting. I actually think he needs to be let loose through the middle a little more.

No doubt players like Gartlett, Jacobs, Joseph and Robinson will need rests but I love what they bring to the side.

Garlett looks a find, absolutely, but I agree that he shouldn't have to play a full senior season. He's on the radar now for other teams, not soft pricks like the tigers, and they will hurt him. He'll be in and out of the team this year, through no fault of his own. Same probably goes for Joseph, although he's a different type of player. Jacobs looks less likely to suffer much from opposition bashings, but still wouldn't be surprised if the rigours of senior footy take their toll.

JR did his usual solid work, but MUST reach that next level if he's to stay ahead, and like Fisher needs to add more to his game. He does a job, yes, but Grigg and Walker can also do this job while hurting the opposition the other way at the same time. With Hadley back (hopefully permanently), his status as our best tackler (barring Bentick) also gets pushed down a peg.

It pains me to say it, but I thought Simmo was a bit of a liability last night. Got a lot of it, but butchered it nearly every time(under 60% efficiency IIRC), which is very unlike him. Hope he doesn't string a few like that together.

Johnson showed patches of brilliance one minute, and was ordinary the next. Was found out playing on Morton, and it would seem he'll struggle with the '3rd tall'. See how he goes next week, as Stevens would seem the obvious replacement and won't be back until rd3.

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I must have watched a different game to everyone else

Russell looked like he had run with roles rotating on Delidio and Tambling - Geez those two had a big influence on the game

Houlihan was close to best on ground last like - Even Bucks recognised this

As for Johnson it looked like the wrong match up from the start - Mitch Morton to strong in the air for him - thought Bower or thornton would have been a better match up but they were marking others - I prepared to give him the benifit of doubt - Like to spot up the Ethiopian like he did with that pass was purely all class picked him out in the middle of three tigers.

Players that have poor disposal better watch their backs - Simpson would have been best on ground last night except for his kicking - Wiggo could of had 5 goals against his name .

Cloke was quiet early but came into it in the second half - Could Walker replace Cloke and does Walker have the right for automatic selection - maybe he will have to earn it

I think injuries would be the only reason to replace someone after that performance

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Cloke's role will be similar to Earl Spaldings in the 90's. Walker is competing against Wiggins, Houlihan, Fisher, Yarran etc.

it will be all about balance and planning. Thats the freedom depth gives you. ratts and Co knew Tigers hate to be pressured down baxck so we picked a fast side and a forward line built around pressure and it worked.

Against some sides we will need bigger bodies.

And so the balance will change. But now we are the ones deciding because we have the players, no longer is it a case of that's all there is folks.

Football has changed. You need pace, you need a willingness to chase and tackle and you need instant impact in the rotations. That's what we now have. Add Tex Stevo and Grigg to this side and who knows??? Isn't it fun to have this discussion!

Oh and I thought Houla (and I have bagged him in the past) was sensational last night - funny what pressure does to your own players, let alone the other team's.

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Stevens being the vice captain has to come in, Walker needs a good year so have to have him in the squad, take out some of the rookie's, give Joseph and Gartlett a rest even though they played well.

I think Russell and Johnson played well enough to keep their spots in the team

None of them deserve to be dropped.

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Grigg in for Simpson if suspended, which I seriously hope he doesn't get suspended for that soft report.

I can't make any changes, nobody deserves to be dropped, but in saying that Grigg and Walker are solid bodies that would add so much to our team.

AJ has back pocket to his own at present.

JR continued on with his form from the Geelong game, has taken another step up.

CJ was good out of defence, Morton kicked a couple hanging off the pack for the easy ball, whereas CJ won a fair share of hardballs and was solid and kicked well on both feet.

I think Garlett might make way for one of Grigg or Walker at this stage.

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Those who can't see the progress Russell makes week after week go in with pre-conceived ideas.

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No, we don't. I'm truly sick of reading this anytime someone voices the opinion that JR needs to do more to keep his spot, especially given the number of players to come back. It's alright to rip the shit out of Stevo, Carrots, Thornton and Houlihan at every opportunity, but question JR's position and it's suddenly "agenda...bias...pre-conceived ideas".

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In spite of CJ's limitations as a defender, I'd keep him in. I haven't seen us move the ball out of defence that easily in donkey's years. And maybe that's cause Richmond were woeful, but the one time Thornton took a kick-in he couldn't find a player and ended booting it straight to an unmarked Richo leading to a Morton goal.

CJ also spotted up Garlett for his goal, and probably had a hand in a few others if I could be bother going back and looking for hem.

I think he was just the wrong match-up for Morton and once the MC realised this the problem went away. Nothing to see here.

Wow.........

ya can't really "drop" anyone........but lets see what the MC
do........!

as for CJ........as long as we don't play him in a "run with"
roll.........all should be good.........he's not a good "run with" player........
but he'll set it up nicely........!


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That is funny.

I'm usually defending Houlihan but I thought he butchered it a bit last night which is really unusual for him. Looked low on confidence compared to the rest of the side and that punch away when he should have marked out on the wing was just one example.

Certainly no need to drop him but someone's got to make way for Grigg somewhere. Joseph's probably the one but a shame considering I thought it was a pretty solid debut.

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Got no idea what the other guy was thinking.

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