ummm..........

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Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

G'day Cranium!
No need for me to vote I guess

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its big and loaded

Josh Hill would be lucky to weigh in at 65kg wringing wet.

You could see in his season last year that he would play well early, then burn out towards the end of the season.

There's no point having Garlett play his best footy of the year in rounds 1-7 at Preston.

Like Robbo, he is ready to make a difference in games right now. No doubt it will be a different story in round 15, but that's what depth is all about.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Great stuff Sauce.........patience pays off. Good to have a genuine big body in the ruck for a change

Gar(t)lett will get his chance, but good to see AJ rewarded for hard work too. We ain't had someone to go with the pest goal sneaks for years.

No Garlett this is a big mistake in my opinion,we need a guy like that in the forward pocket,so what his thin,he knows how to get the ball plus the game has turned to a bit of a girls game. He won't die,there isn't much physical stuff in footy these days,his a man and a aboriginal who is tough and not a soft English tea drinking pom,lol.

I agree with Sam Jacobs actually been impressed,some people said he was slow,but i read he does well in sprints and runs all day. I do feel his a bit worried with his kicking as he seems to handball a lot when it's in his hand,hopefully he has the confident later to kick.

I dion't agree with Josephs as i reckon he could come in half way in the season,we have plenty of midfield players. The club don't want to start the season with a couple of loses to start it because we will be dreaming if we want to play finals. I think there is like 15 other clubs thinking they can make the finals if they start with a couple of wins or more.

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Bang Bang.

Reported in the age;

Carlton has applied to the AFL to elevate Aaron Joseph and Sam Jacobs as its nominated rookies

and in the hun;

The Blues yesterday elevated rookies Aaron Joseph and Sam Jacobs

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hands up if you're a sycophant!

We do lack genuine run with/tagger type players, that will be AJ's role in 2009. AJ also has that mongrel in him, a hardness that we need more of and is shown up against the better sides especially Hawthorn. Opposition players will know they've been in a contest with him, he doesn't shirk a contest.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

If you look at it from a players point of view it is the best decision. Mind you Pfieffer must be injured!

Sauce and AJ have been on the list for 2-3 years and have shown vast improvement since coming to the club. They have also showed that they are a chance to handle the pressure of AFL based on their performances in the NAB Cup.

Garlett, although exciting has been at the club for about 4 months. If he was promoted ahead of the other two they would be rightly upset given theri efforts over 2-3 years. His time will come and having to really earn his spot will do him good.

With 206 on the LTI there is still incentive for Garlett, Ellard, Bentley, Pfieffer to push for a spot and the odds are there will be more chances during the season.

All in all a good decision by the MC.

I think Joseph was the logical choice. Garlett would be behind Betts and Yarran in the small forward role. But there is no one player that has taken the role of stopper at the club. Joseph seems to relish it and if you read his interviewafter the Geelong game, he was already planning how to tighten up on Ablett next time. He's quick, tough and has decent skills. As much as I hate the SOBs we need a ling/Rawlings/Sewell type and nobody else is putting their hand up to do it.

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T E A M

I voted for Joseph and Jacobs.

I agree with CJ, I would have liked to see Garlett running around, but rewarding effort for the blokes who have been putting in for a couple of years sends a powerfull message. This is a strategy that sends a cultural message and not just a short term sign of desperation. It tells the rookies that rewards are there if they earn their stripes and work hard. Garlett will get his chance.

AJ is a great choice, we need a new Franchina and i thought he was good on Ablett, Jacobs doesnt look mobile enough for mine but with Warnock out we are short of other options.

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

If it's any help, Gro, I can send you a nice chilli plum sauce I made last week. Goes with anything.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Ah yes, the FIFO school of list management ... if only Cam Croad had have stuck around for a few more years.

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"It was like calling your ex girlfriend after a night on the booze, just a really bad decision".

Can't understand the selection of Joseph. Think that both Brown and Armfield are well ahead of him for selection in this team. Might as well have gone for Garlett who really adds something to the forward line. Next I would have thought about Bentley who has a bit of strength about him.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

He is not good enough to be promoted just yet - depth player - his disposal is less than good, we already have too many whose disposal by foot is suspect.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

Can't understand your logic.

Browne is not quick.

Armfield arguably could not have done such a good job on Ablett Jnr. He struggled on Harvey.

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It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it

Perhaps we have enough forward options with the resting midfielders rotating through the forward line.

Maybe the MC see Armfield and Browne as players who can hurt the opposition offensively and see AJ in a purely defensive role.

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There's so much I could say...

Nobody on our list has shown they could do the job Joseph did on Ablett Jnr.

Simple really.

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It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it

I preferred Garlett to Joseph cos i think its more important to have goalkickers than stoppers but good luck to young Joseph and hope he goes well....he probably has done the hard yards unlike Garlett and like others have said, his job on Ablett got him over the line.

I think Jacobs has earned his promotion and as I have said before he has a bit more ruck nous than most give him credit for.

You would think both would be lining up in rnd 1 vs the tigers with Joseph allocated a player like Nathan Foley...

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen

I am not sure Croad filled all of the above criteria?