I think Melbourne's current form at the moment highlight how important leadership is too a team. Besides Neitz they have no leaders. They have plenty of talent, but no leaders. Leadership has an enormous effect on how teams recover from a week or two of losses. Compare Brisbane after their poor start to Melbourne - one team has the leaders to bring back the confidence in the team, while the others go missing when they're so desperately required.

Have you ever thought that Murphy doesnt want to go to Brisbane???
That he was a North supporter idolises Denis...(and Carey)

Thats right!!!There is a player and he is not on our list that thinks Denis is the man...!!!!(maybe?)

Have you ever thought that this kid wouldnt get to North but has a red hot chance of staying in Melbourne with his friends and family and to be tutored by the great man himself???

Have you ever thought.......????

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As if you would pass up an opportunity to be coached by two blokes you have idolised for most of your life.

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Don't sell yourself short Synbad! Go on, use your vast knowledge, you can see a leader, it's scary Synbad! You know about all the intangibles in all young footballers....go on I say! Football recruiting needs you Sailorman!

"Bigger fish to fry" come on stop looking for excuses Synbad! Talent spotting needs you! . You're the bloke that tells everyone else who will be a leader and who won't be, get out there and do it instead of hiding behind a computer screen!

Here's a bet Synbad....I bet you don't do it!

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No i bet Murphy goes number 1... cos things are simple BB2005.



why is Murphy number 1????

Could it be cos he is the best prospect????

grabbing at straws BB2005...

Every club would have Murphy on their wishlist... but you would say nah!! he isnt important... lets go for the second best as best... cos we dont need the best...
Magic mushrooms BB2005????
I reckon Murphy will be number 1 who do you reckon will be number 1???

Lets put your deep thinking philosophy to the acid test....

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I dont confess to being an expert in recruiting but i do respect what recruiters say When you suggest to someone who is in the know we should target Kerr who i reckon is a very talented midfielder and you get laughed at that target a ruckman Murphy is a much better proespect than Kerr you listen.
When you get told this kid is a gun is very smart above the shoulders and has leadership qualities and good skill you take note.

Now if this kid has any of those potential skills i would luv him to be at the blues even at risk that he goes F/S but at least we made every chance to get him. If he lives up to that potential we have a great start to build around and add to other good talents we have at the club. Good footballers make other promising footballers lift around them .. recent examples ... Hodge / Judd / Ball / Kosi / Delidio is touted also in a similar league ... all have leadership skills all have shown something within 2-3 years of playing in the seniors/ Look at the impact that Delidio and Tambling had on the Tiger list gave them a big lift got them started in a positive manner for 2005.
If there is chance of getting a spark in the side i am all for it nothing is vever 100% in this game ie Dissapointments / Injuries ect but if it works out then the risk is worth it. Now unlike some i am not looking for us to tank year in year out i am only looking at this year maybe as a pay back for 2003 when we got the spoon for no return this year i want the benefit and want a chance toi erase this season with a positive return in 2006

dannyboy yes i remember Judd.. he was part of the best draft of all time...
unfortunately this draft and that draft is like comparing hand made chocolate with boiled lollies.


therres only one bloke in my opinion that would have been top 10 in that draft.. thats Murphy...

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ahh but Syband the argument isn't wether he is number 1 or not, its whether he is the only one or not.

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Well dannyboy a progessive thinker like you surely would pick whoever is the best prospect from what we know today... rather than what dont know today...

Thats BB2005s domain... making calls on stuff we dont know today and saying" but there might be others"

From what we know today.. Murphy is the STANDOUT talent wise and leadership wise...
So you wouldnt be wise to think otherwise..

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Murphy will go 1 Synbad, when have I said he wouldn't? When have I even said that any one player is better than Murphy. I've been saying all along that the club will go forwards in the next few seasons with or without Murphy...you're a doomsdayer and disagree...I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

For me footy's about winning games, for you at the moment it isn't...we're poles apart and we're not going to come to consensus! I don't want to finish last, you do, I want to win, you don't...agree to disagree.

What I think we can safely say is that if we're getting two top 4 picks we can't really go wrong.

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Even Grant Thomas would suggest that the astute (yeah right) John Beveridge (Aints recruiter) will pull off (amongst other things ) a master stroke of genius by selecting Marc Murphy at No. 1

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

BB2005.. Murphy will go number 1 cos he is the best from what we know right???

Why would a club pick a kid with pick number 1???

Well youd pick a kid with pick number one because he will be a huge building block into the future to WIN GAMES!!!!!!.. something we dont have the capacity to do at the moment...

so your logic is illogical.
You want to win games without having the building blocks to win games.
If you slow down and not run before you can walk you will end up running.. if you keep trying to run when you cant even walk you get a broken face.....
So how about walking before you want to run????...or in our case crawl before we can walk...

Its about planning and logic...

Nothing happens overnight... we have to start all over again... winning one game of footy and costing ourselves a building block is counter productive!!!

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so you agree then Synbad if we don;t get Murphs we wpould have been better off winning ten or so games and at least salvaging some honour cos the rest are shite. Oh now tank for Murph or don;t tank at all - it isn;lt worth it.

Oh Murph Murph
I wish you had blonde hair
Oh Murph Murph
I hope you surf
cos then we could head off together
on the long hot highway of life
you and I we'd share the board
and wax and wan and maybe in your light
a lass or two might fall my way
oh Murph Murph
we'd share the waves
we'd find God together
and sail away.

sorry Tyrant he's mine! I always wanted a messiah to take home to mum.

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Losing players like Murphy is costing ourselves perpetual black Fridays.
Hes the stand out!!!!!

then there is first crack at players that are uncontracted...

Stupidity would call to not believe that we need as much talent (Where we pick what we want then allow other clubs to get a look in) in the position were at at the moment...

But some people think all we need is to tweak a few things and we will be ok...

were injured!!!!!

We need a rehaul of personnel.

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Hey Synbad how about they scrap the draft this season, clearly there's nobody else that can help any club in the future besides Murphy.

You're all doom and gloom Synbad, relax mate! Picks 2 and 4 will help the club! The club will be here tomorrow Synbad Murphy or no Murphy. Whoever we get with picks 2 and 4 will be important to our future and act as BUILDING BLOCKS just like Murphy would. You're placing far too much emphasis on one good young footballer.

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One good young footballer who is a cut above the rest.

Why can't you see that it'd be better to have him in the side as opposed to say a Dowler or a Clarke?
Like I said before, imagine if we had Murphy and Ellis as our first two picks.

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no one is saying it wouldn't be better PJ but we are saying its not the end if we do not get him.

seems to me that when we place limits on things like ' its him or its doom' we are failing to think clearly

and the best way to get out of this mire is

to think clearly.

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Why not end the season on a positive note with a win or two somewhere and get two of the best four young players in the country anyway?

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Sure 2 and 4 will help.. but theyre not 1 and 2...
Look BB2005... ill try and use logic as much as i can cos you dont get it... ( has everything been handed to you on a playe so far in life?)

Ok... which club would prefer picks 2 and 4 to 1 and 3???
Just name one....!!!!

now when your president comes out and says that we have the worst list.. with no out and out A graders and players all the way down to Z grade.
when you have won 19 of the last 82 games....


Why would YOU think having the best possible picks in the National Draft and the first crack at an uncontracted player.. isnt not that important???

Just clarify whats going on in your head when youre thinking about where the club is BB2005...

Alkso tell me who your picks #2 #3 #4 are???
surely youre not saying it doesnt make a difference but you dont know who the next 3 picks should be.....

That would be leaving things to the lap of the Gods BB2005...

I can give you 3 id love but i cant give you 4...

Also i can only name one i would REALLY REALLY LOVE!!!!

over to you.... now have a good think about what youre going to write

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Ill tell you why not....!!! cows the stakes are way too high!!!!

we won 3 of our last 4 last year... SO WHAT????

if you have an ordinary list youre just plain ordinary.... isolated wins mean nothing in the grand scheme of things...


Cos youre not going to get much more than isolated meaningless wins...

thats why!!!

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