bondiblue wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Really really really want to see Austin play.
I think he could be a very valuable player for us if he develops. At the moment the only other genuine size key defender is Carlos, although we all know Jamo does a damn good job on blokes considerably bigger than him. Still, wouldn't it be nice to have that depth of KP defenders. It would also allow us to be a bit more creative with Waite.
Also keen to see Haddles
Jamo is 193cms, same height as Austin. He is deceptively tall. Waite 194cms.
Jamo is our Scarlett and I would back him to play on the bigger lads EVERY time. He's an elite, they play above their height (e.g. Hunter). Hale kicked plenty on Scarlett (8?), so to see Jamo stitch him up the other night should give all Blues fans a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Agree, would still like to get look at Aussie in this game, but who does he replace?
I don't think Hale was stitched up by Jamo. In fact, the only time I saw the height difference being an advantage to Jamo was in the first Q when the ball hit the ground near the boundary and Jamo ran off (admitedly Jamo had 3 metre head start). The ball movement by North was sub standard in against Carlton in comparison to their display against Geelong. Hale and Scarlett were isolated and the delivery to Hale was always to advantage.
Jamo was too short for Hale. So much so, Jamo couldn't do much more than try and disguise a free kick against. Last year, when Jamo was one on one against Richo and a couple of the big Crows he was out of his weight decision; in fact his fist got no where near where the ball was marked because of the extra cms advantage of his opponent.
Agreed that Jamo is elite, but 7 cms plus extra cms in reach advantage from his opponent is not a fair contest. The rules definetely lean towards the forwards. From all the evidence I've seen, Jamo is seriously disadvatged physically against the gorillas. The only bloke we have on our list who is tall enough and strong enough to compete in a one on one combat with a gorilla (200cm) is Setanta.
AS for Austin, he was drafted at 194 cm; surely he has grown a bit since then. If you look at the training photos and find the ones where Austin and Jamo are next to each other, Austin is the taller of the 2. Austin has definetely grown taller than when first drafted. He's still too skinny for KP.
I also believe Jamo is taller than 193cm.
The great thing is that we are developing depth in the backline, and when Austin gains a bit more strength he will/ should take over Setanta for the big man role in defense.
Anyway, that's how I see it.
Interesting stuff amongst this Bondi, but permit me to add:
1. Got Austin's height as 193 cms from player profiles on CFC site, a height that would most likely have been taken on his arrival at the club. Maybe the CFC tape measure didn't get to 194 cms back then, given he was "always" 194 cms??
Whatever, he would have grown a bit since then so I stand corrected.
2. Jamo height also taken from the CFC site. Doubt he would have grown too much as circa 20-21 years when he came to us as a mature aged rookie.
3. Re Jamo v Hale, I think Hale only got 2 on him. IIRC, Waite coughed up a free kick to him in front of goals.
Jamo generally has a great record against the bigger units - I think back to the job he did on a rampant Reiwoldt at the G last yr - this had a big say in our comeback spurt in the last qtr. Jamo playing with one arm too. I was screaming for our box to make that move, that's why I remember it so well.
An elite, glad we agree on that.
4. Re Aussie, sure he'll continue to grow, but I don't see him as a "last line of defence" backman - his record back there is a little indifferent. His attacking instincts a bit of a worry back there and, unlike Jamo, he doesn't seem to have the smarts to outposition the bigger fellas "one on one". River Rodent and many other Ants watchers regularly highlight his "last line" deficiencies and he has had a few bags kicked on him back there. It was there for all to see in the big time when a spud like Moran outplayed him at AAMI last year.
Far more comfortable seeing Aussie developed as a CHB - I think he has the tools to be a good one, too.
Anyway, that's how I see it.
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