79Vintage wrote:
Blues2005 wrote:
Most of you are absolutely disgraceful, I knew that there would be a thread like this but it's still pretty amazing to comprehend.
As if the future of this club rests on one bloke! Fair Dinkum! What a load of bullshit, I don't care how good he is, this club will be successful again whether or not we get Marc Murphy.
I hope that anyone wanting us to lose this game, or tank the season or whatever, doesn't still go to the footy. I hope that none of you go on Saturday because frankly you're all disgraceful and before the usual crap is sprouted about who is a better supporter than who, well yes those who want us to lose any matches of footy in my opinion can not call themselves true supporters. It's completely against the ethos of being a supporter.
You know what I want us to win even more now, in fact every goal that we beat Hawthorn by will make me even happier not only because we'd be winning a game after all this time but out of spite to you lot on here. Bloody hell guys we're not going to win more than 3 games anyway out of the last 6, it looks odds on that the priority pick is ours, and you know what, if we don't get it, we'll F@%! move on you know! The club is bigger than a bloody priority pick! And what's the difference between picks 2 and 4 as opposed to 1 and 3 in the draft assuming Hawthorn and Carlton both get priority picks regardless of the weekend's result? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. IF WE CAN'T GET TOP LINE TALENT WITH PICKS 2 AND 4 then the recruiting team and the club and whoever else has FAILED.
It's almost quite funny, people thinking that the future rests on an 18 year old or two hahahahah bloody hell imagine being Marc Murphy and hearing about that! You've got to be joking fellas. The sentiment in this thread is completely disgraceful and hopefully those advocating losing matches of footy don't actually go to the games. Nobody can stop you from having an opinion but you don't deserve to go to the footy with an attitude like that. I'll be there and hoping we win and then win the next week and the week after etc etc. Hopefully the Blues will stick it up the lot of ya
CARNA BLUES!
This thread and supporter attitude is not a reflection on Carlton supporters but the flaws of the AFL system. Marc Murphy is the standout, ask any recruiter it's pick 1 if he decides to stay in Melbourne then a class gap to the next best player. He was captain of the victorious Vic Metro and if you consult your history books you'll find his father won six VFL club best and fairests. As Synbad pointed out the PSD is also another benefit of last place. If it was 2006 I wouldn't want to finish last because there's probably six players who are of A-grade quality but that's not the case this year. I hope Murphy laughs at this thread if he cared to read it, because if he comes to the club he should be afforded the same 3- 5 years any youngster should get to find his feet, look at Simmo's last two games.
You're attitude to winning is fantastic Blues 2005, and I have the same attitude to winning except it's projected towards the future not the present. Maybe I should change my name on TC from 79Vintage to
Blues2012-2015.
CARNA the Blues
Come on Vintage you're being unrealistic and ridiculous - I've seen Murphy play I know that he's a good player and will go high in the draft. But the way you're pinning our immediate future on what is at the end of the day an 18-year old kid who might not even get to the club anyway is insane for mine. As I said Vintage, the club will become successful again whether or not Mark Murphy is a part of that success. Carlton FC will survive with or without Murphy, I don't care how good he is. But then maybe every other club should just forfeit from participating in this year's draft - maybe let's even scrap the draft altogether, as it's clear that if you don't have pick 1 and take Murphy there's nothing else resembling talent to be found.
Every other player is a dud so why bother with the draft? See it sounds stupid doesn't it? Of course it does! But the way you're carrying on about Murphy as if he's some sort of Messiah is equally ridiculous!
TruBlueBrad wrote:
phoenix johnson wrote:
It's how it is these days and how it will be until they get rid of the priority pick.
No one wants to lose, but if it gets us a shot at Murphy, then so be it.
He won't fix our problems over night, but he will add more quality to our list along with whoever else we pick up.
Blues2005, you can go along to the football, support the team all you like, get your 3 or 4 other wins and see us make a cluster F@%&#! of the whole situation and miss out on genuine talent.
Me on the otherhand, I'll take short term pain for long term gain.
This isn't about the Priority Pick though. Not winning more than 5 games is about the PP. If they scrapped the PP before the end of this year we're still going to want to finish bottom to get Murphy.
This problem will always be a problem while we work in reverse ladder order to decide the order of drafting.
That doesn't mean I'm suggesting we use any other system, just pointing out this attitude isn't going to change after this season. We'll still want to finish 16th in the same situation next season to get Selwood.
Of course he’ll fix our problems overnight pj, remember there’s no other talent in the draft this year so if we don’t get him the club is stuffed for all eternity!!!:roll:
“Make a cluster @#$%&! of the whole situation and miss out on genuine talentâ€
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. Sorry but we as a club have reached new levels of despair.
Quite clearly Murphy can play, Vintage, that's not at issue though. I have no misgivings about his talent and not in one of my posts on this subject have I expressed any about Murphy's ability.