Celebrity Blues Haters

camel · **Posted:** Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:50 pm

Steve_C7 wrote:

camelboy wrote:

As a caller he was passable, it was as host of White Line Fever and other similar shows that his hatred for Carlton was clear. The were plenty of times I almost put a fist through the telly as his anti-Carlton bias shone through.

I'm sorry that his life ended so tragically and way too early, but when it comes to Carlton and the shit he put on us he can go and get flower.

I think that the pain of what Carlton was going through at the time and the embarrasment of how the club was performing both in admin and on the ground had many of us on the defensive to anybody who was pointing it out or reporting on it. Grybas as a media commentator was just calling it as he saw it and I felt that every one that was giving me the sh1ts and making fun of our great club had a deep seated hatred/jealosy of our club. With the benefit of hindsite, I see that I was over reacting to the comments made, and in reallity our club deserved what we were recieveing from the media and from other supporters. Guys like Grybas made all of us faithful Carlton supporters aware of just how badly our admin was performing and that immediate change was desperatly needed to get the club back to where it belongs, I thank him for that, not hate him.

That's quite amusing really, especially the part where we need to thank Grybas for making us realise what a joke our club was. The worrying thing is, I think you actually believe what you wrote.

But, you're right. Patrick Smith and his ilk are just doing their jobs, none of those guys ever hold a grudge, how silly of me. A Collingwood supporter could never hate Carlton, that would never happen. :thumbsup:

I'm not sure which Clinton Grybas you guys were watching, but the one I saw seemed to be getting a bit too much pleasure from pointing out how shit we were. I'm not going to forget that simply because he died in tragic circumstances. He probably was a great guy, too, just that, far as I can tell, he rather enjoyed kicking us while we were down.

I quite liked him back in his ABC radio days when, perhaps, he was unable to express his apparent feelings with the freedom commercial outlets accept.

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:12 pm

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But, you're right. Patrick Smith and his ilk are just doing their jobs, none of those guys ever hold a grudge, how silly of me. A Collingwood supporter could never hate Carlton, that would never happen

Patrick Smith is Essendon* scum, not Collingwood filth

AGRO · **Posted:** Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:54 pm

camelboy wrote:

I'm not sure which Clinton Grybas you guys were watching, but the one I saw seemed to be getting a bit too much pleasure from pointing out how shit we were. I'm not going to forget that simply because he died in tragic circumstances. He probably was a great guy, too, just that, far as I can tell, he rather enjoyed kicking us while we were down.

I quite liked him back in his ABC radio days when, perhaps, he was unable to express his apparent feelings with the freedom commercial outlets accept.

You shouldn't just restrict this observation to Clinton Grybas - the majority of the media have really enjoyed putting on the steel capped boots and giving us a right old kicking whilst we were down over the past 6 years - a lot of them are holding plain old grudges from the fact that between 1968 to 1995 we won a flag every 3 years - and in particular mainly against the strong and well supported teams of the AFL/VFL (Essendon*, Richmond, Collingwood and to a lesser extent Hawthorn).

Nope there has been no even hand reporting of our circumstances over the past 6 years - its been plain and obvious smart arse gloating.

But all of these turkeys are going to have to swallow it up big time over the next few years as we rightfully claim our rightful place at the top.

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:35 pm

Tony Jones will be a sight when #17 comes our way.

DownUnderChick · **Posted:** Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:50 pm

Mark Robinson at the Hun.

BrizzyBlue · **Posted:** Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:53 pm

AGRO wrote:

But all of these turkeys are going to have to swallow it up big time over the next few years as we rightfully claim our rightful place at the top.

Hey Grumpy, Is that like Gobble, Gobble, Gobble? :lol:

Steve_C7 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:39 pm **Posts:** 1002

camelboy wrote:

Steve_C7 wrote:

camelboy wrote:

As a caller he was passable, it was as host of White Line Fever and other similar shows that his hatred for Carlton was clear. The were plenty of times I almost put a fist through the telly as his anti-Carlton bias shone through.

I'm sorry that his life ended so tragically and way too early, but when it comes to Carlton and the shit he put on us he can go and get flower.

I think that the pain of what Carlton was going through at the time and the embarrasment of how the club was performing both in admin and on the ground had many of us on the defensive to anybody who was pointing it out or reporting on it. Grybas as a media commentator was just calling it as he saw it and I felt that every one that was giving me the sh1ts and making fun of our great club had a deep seated hatred/jealosy of our club. With the benefit of hindsite, I see that I was over reacting to the comments made, and in reallity our club deserved what we were recieveing from the media and from other supporters. Guys like Grybas made all of us faithful Carlton supporters aware of just how badly our admin was performing and that immediate change was desperatly needed to get the club back to where it belongs, I thank him for that, not hate him.

That's quite amusing really, especially the part where we need to thank Grybas for making us realise what a joke our club was. The worrying thing is, I think you actually believe what you wrote.

So in your world, no commentator would be able to make fun of our dysfunctional club; and by extention of that, we would think that all is well with the board and club?
Ask yourself one question, what was the motivation for Mr Pratt to come back to the Blues?
The more the media belted the club, the more good Carlton people put their hands up to help out the club.

BTW, don't worry about what I believe. I look past the petty and prefer to look at the big picture, which is looking allot brighter these days :wink:

camel · **Posted:** Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:49 pm

Steve_C7 wrote:

So in your world, no commentator would be able to make fun of our dysfunctional club; and by extention of that, we would think that all is well with the board and club?
Ask yourself one question, what was the motivation for Mr Pratt to come back to the Blues?
The more the media belted the club, the more good Carlton people put their hands up to help out the club.

BTW, don't worry about what I believe. I look past the petty and prefer to look at the big picture, which is looking allot brighter these days :wink:

Oh yeah, I'm with you on the last para. :thumbsup:

I had no problem with people reporting on our woes, but there's reporting and there's piss taking. From what I saw he was going further past his job description than I was happy with. As I said, I previously enjoyed his work, predominantly as a caller, on ABC radio, but I saw enough to change my opinion on him 180°.

:beer:

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:32 am

DownUnderChick wrote:

Mark Robinson at the Hun.

TruBlueBrad wrote:

That may be true DUC, but certainly on SEN I think he does a pretty good job of being balanced and fair.

DownUnderChick wrote:

Brad, one always remembers the written word and about 3-4 years ago, he wrote a putrid article about why he loved the hole we were in and I'm sure he was having a ciggie while writting it, he was that enthused about it.

I'm sure you'd know and I don't doubt he hates the Blues...I've been impressed with the way he's spoken about our future of recent times.

AGRO · **Posted:** Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:24 am

TruBlueBrad wrote:

DownUnderChick wrote:

Mark Robinson at the Hun.

That may be true DUC, but certainly on SEN I think he does a pretty good job of being balanced and fair.

But one always remembers the written word and about 3-4 years ago, he wrote a putrid article about why he loved the hole we were in and I'm sure he was having a ciggie while writting it, he was that enthused about it.

He is just one of the many journos - who have self-satisfied themselves over the past 6 years by jumping out of the bleachers and on to the field of play to sink the steel capped boots - about as courageous as those thugs that got stuck into Ron Barassi. :roll:

BlueGunners · **Joined:** Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:16 pm **Posts:** 303

Wangers wrote:

That flower Mark Fine, and how can we forget Gary Lyon and everyone that works at Ch 9

I disagree whole-heatedly with Gary Lyon. When channel 9 had the footy and Dermie and Gaz would do the special comment and we are playing... Gaz always defended us, especially against dermie. I remember when Hawks were playing carlton and hawks were on the bottom of the ladder and carlton were ahead by 8 goals, dermie said "hawks should be closer" and Gaz then said carlton should be another 8 goals up.

Plus he tips us alot. I think there are plenty of others ahead of Gary Lyon on the hatred scales

SparkyBlue · **Posted:** Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:34 pm

Steve_C7 wrote:

camelboy wrote:

Steve_C7 wrote:

camelboy wrote:

As a caller he was passable, it was as host of White Line Fever and other similar shows that his hatred for Carlton was clear. The were plenty of times I almost put a fist through the telly as his anti-Carlton bias shone through.

I'm sorry that his life ended so tragically and way too early, but when it comes to Carlton and the shit he put on us he can go and get flower.

I think that the pain of what Carlton was going through at the time and the embarrasment of how the club was performing both in admin and on the ground had many of us on the defensive to anybody who was pointing it out or reporting on it. Grybas as a media commentator was just calling it as he saw it and I felt that every one that was giving me the sh1ts and making fun of our great club had a deep seated hatred/jealosy of our club. With the benefit of hindsite, I see that I was over reacting to the comments made, and in reallity our club deserved what we were recieveing from the media and from other supporters. Guys like Grybas made all of us faithful Carlton supporters aware of just how badly our admin was performing and that immediate change was desperatly needed to get the club back to where it belongs, I thank him for that, not hate him.

That's quite amusing really, especially the part where we need to thank Grybas for making us realise what a joke our club was. The worrying thing is, I think you actually believe what you wrote.

So in your world, no commentator would be able to make fun of our dysfunctional club; and by extention of that, we would think that all is well with the board and club?
Ask yourself one question, what was the motivation for Mr Pratt to come back to the Blues?
The more the media belted the club, the more good Carlton people put their hands up to help out the club.

BTW, don't worry about what I believe. I look past the petty and prefer to look at the big picture, which is looking allot brighter these days :wink:

I think you'll find that the reason good Carlton people came back was because we were getting smashed on the field - not copping shit from morons off it.

There were not many media-types that haven't stuck in the boots over the last 5 years, a lot of the media with their sheep mentality choosing
to have a crack at the AFL whipping boys because they assumed it was probably what everybody wanted to read.

And popular the articles probably were... unless you were a Carlton supporter.

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:08 pm

In the depths of the dark years, we didn't need the media to sink the boots into us... We sank the boots into ourselves for them, and embaressed ourselves for all to see time and time again. I'm sure we all remember the Smorgon vs Diggins slanging match via the media, the shambolic sacking of Pagan by Smorgon's board, Marcus Rose telling the Hun that we're worse then Fitzroy, players arguing amongst themselves duing countless onfield thumpings... etc etc etc...)

Steve_C7 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:39 pm **Posts:** 1002

SparkyBlue wrote:

I think you'll find that the reason good Carlton people came back was because we were getting smashed on the field - not copping shit from morons off it.

There were not many media-types that haven't stuck in the boots over the last 5 years, a lot of the media with their sheep mentality choosing
to have a crack at the AFL whipping boys because they assumed it was probably what everybody wanted to read.

And popular the articles probably were... unless you were a Carlton supporter.

I am not really sure that Pratt was recruited to help out the boys on the field.

I don't think that too many people at board level cared whether we got smashed or not whilst the club was rebuilding, after all by getting the PP we were in fact getting two drafts each year instead of one, therefor accelerating our development.
Having our administration become the laughing stock of the AFL and by extention of that, the business world was the motivating factor for change at board level. The problem is worsened because no-one would put their hand up as the way the board was running the show, it didn't look good on your resume if you were a member of a completely incompetent board. It took someone of the stature of Dick Pratt to add a professionalism to the board and then we could attract people like Swann, Icke and Cordy to the club which was the driver for improvements on field.

Synbad · **Posted:** Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:04 am

we did say celebrities didnt we????

none of those you have mentioned count...

start again...

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