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Should Ratten get a contract extension?
Yes, till 2011 30%  30%  [ 45 ]
Yes, till 2010 26%  26%  [ 39 ]
No! .. wait till later next season to decide. 43%  43%  [ 64 ]
No!! ..sack him now!!!!!! 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:01 pm 
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Anyone who thinks coaches are judged on tactics or short term improvement are kidding themselves.
Talk to the current coaches and their mentors (Parkin, Alves, Connolly and co.) and they'll tell you good coaching is about quality preparation, not tricks.

The good coaches teach their players to be good decision makers. To think their way through situations whilst under enormous pressure and to react in a manner that will be predictable to their team mates and beneficial to the team. No one does it well all the time but the better teams make the right decision more than most.
That process is developed by implementation of game sense drills at training and coaches with the ability to communicate with the players without overloading them with useless bullshit.

From what I've witnessed, the players are learning more in one week of training at the moment than they did under a years training from Pagan.
The drills are game specific and give the players every opportunity to instinctively play a style of game that will lead to success.
What happens on game day reflects their long term preparation. Tactics make up 5% of wins and losses.
Games are decided by long term strategies and smart players. That's what Ratts is building. Give him time.

A tactic refers to any method used to achieve an aim... yes at it's simplest that's "Waite to CHF" or "Kick it to the square" but you well know it gets a bit more complex than that.

It remains to be seen if Ratts can develop and maintain enough of these scenarios successfully, say tempo footy (to use another simple example), or alternatively if he can educate enough players to rotate through roles within the structure such that the opposition can't lock down on a key role.

One season and six games is not enough, if it does backfire we have sent money down the river for no good reason. We could have offered an extension in the form of an option on the contract, for instance.

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As you say, it's done and dusted now. Let's just hope we're 8-3 :-D


I was kinda hoping for 10-1, but I'll take 8-3. :lol:

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great move, for mine. the players love him, the staff love him, the media love him. he's got great character, he's got love for the club, he's smart enough to get excellent assistants around him. he deserves two years at this point. and if it all goes pear-shaped, pay him out. in the meantime, your coach feels secure, and your playing list is secure in the knowledge that this is the man who's taking them to the finals, so let's get down to business.

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singindablues wrote:
great move, for mine. the players love him, the staff love him, the media love him. he's got great character, he's got love for the club, he's smart enough to get excellent assistants around him. he deserves two years at this point. and if it all goes pear-shaped, pay him out. in the meantime, your coach feels secure, and your playing list is secure in the knowledge that this is the man who's taking them to the finals, so let's get down to business.


Caaaaaaching!

Give this man a beer. :wink:

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I'll never forget David Parkin's comment on Ratts when Brett Ratten was appointed Coach.

He said that when he coached Ratts; every time he went to walk off the field at three quarter time; Ratts would be tugging his sleeve with "what would you think of this move....or whatever"......."he had a myriad of possible scenarios to help us win the game"

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Waiting for the great leap forward

Say what you want about his coaching, but no-one can deny the love and passion this man has for our club.

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He is Carlton Thru & Thru. He has great support team around him & is bringing back the belief and passion that has been missing. I think he will go along way with this group because they respect him as well. :-D


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