Well we'll have to agree to disagree CJ.
Geelong are a super team, so were Brisbane, but not all premiership teams are as star studded as those two.
Some teams win premierships on belief, talent and team spirit like Sydney did, and Carlton will have at least as much talent as Sydney 2005 in two years from now.
What we need to develop is the belief and spirit, and that's within our reach, and to this end players like Fish, JR and Wiggo are far more important than we may realise.
Have faith.

hey

Cazzeman

takes more than that to offend me

and your sarcasm doesnt change the fact that jordan may be a nice chap and trys hard but is

a dumb player
a shit kick

Tell that to JR. The crap that is written about him on here is beyond belief. He's had more cheap shots fired at him than a cut out duck in a sideshow.

I have posted my thoughts on here more than enough times. I'll back the MC and Coach to make the right decisions about who plays and who doesn't. The facts remain simple. 40 in 22 doesn't go so some miss out. JR has been doing enough to stay in, in the eyes of the MC so live with it.

It makes me sick that supporters actually love to denigrate players from behind a PC to boost their own egos. That's the real Cheap Shot.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

So next time you bump into Ratts or Sticks let them know how you feel. You pay your membership so get your moneys worth.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

See, much better!

The difference being that Richo was not playing in the ruck. Petrie has been. Very difficult to engineer a match up against a ruckman.

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Don't blame it on the sunshine, don't blame it on the moonlight, don't blame it on the good times, blame it on the WIGGINS!

Much better for us when Waite is playing an attacking role not following someone. Let Hampson follow Petrie, he has the engine and will get taken to the ball and win most tap outs!

Yep.
JR is the future of the CFC.

Does that mean the benchmark is about 12 posessions a week and 0 goals 4 behinds? Please lets not get ahead of ourselves.

please take this conversation to Talking Players and get back to discussing the game tomorrow.

Thanks.

Yes dear

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

And add another 85 pages to the JR thread, does TC have the server space?
We are in good form, have picked a good side and North have a few key outs, so if we can't beat them we aren't as good as we think we are.
I think we will win by the way, by two or three goals.

Budsy, NEVER get in the middle of a domestic

Could Wiggins be out injured?

what makes you say that verbs?

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Just with Betts not playing today, and that Wiggins appeared to be impacted in the contests during the last quarter when Judd scored his goal.

If Betts didn't play today, surely someone will not be playing tomorrow?

No argument about Eddie playing but surely he would have to replace Saddo?

I did see the Wiggler looking a bit toey after getting hit, but he seemed to train well on the Friday according to reports.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

It's hard to see someone being given no game this week, at this stage of the season, be it Betts or Saddington. Given Saddington isn't injured he will have to play a game of footy with only three games left in the year.