Has Harvey been tagged in the last few years?

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It'd be interesting to go back 4 years to see how many Geelong supporters thought Andrew Mackie would be part of their next flag, or how many thought he'd still be playing AFL in 2008.

i could see Simmo had potential then in some of the things he did


I cant see that in Russell

Not smart enough

Kicking lacks potency

Doesnt get the ball enough

etc

He is very lucky to have played so much

I'm sure Jordan's doing his best, which is all we can ask of players selected to play, but there are others who should be given more chances I think. Footy clubs can be unnecessarily unfair sometimes with selection which can slow the overall improvement down and waste time getting to the next premiership. Frustrating!


I think maybe Gibbsy will matchup on Harvey. Bryce is accountable for his opponent and can murder him offensively if he isn't accountable on Bryce.

Grigg maybe to take Grant.

If Russell's kicking lacks potency, I'd hate to read what you think of the rest of our team Keogh

Russell has alot of penetration in his kicking on both feet, on occasions when he tries to drill a pass it might not come off, but that can be said about 90% of our team, hence why we aren't finals material until we fix our kicking across the team.

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Or under Pagan he was unlucky not to have played more and gained more experience. It's all relative.

Where did you rate Blackwell after his 1st game?

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Amazing how these get so twisted. Nothing has been said that changes my mind about Fisher.

As a junior he had flaws in his game that clubs didn't like which is why he was drafted so late.

In a young struggling side we tend to overlook those things and hope for the best.

I like Fisher, has a real go and I hope I am wrong but I see to many weaknesses in his game especially on the ground and defensively and he doesn't hurt the opposition on the scoreboard. Over his entire career he still averages one goal a game.

Russell gets me excited for about 10 minutes a week and then goes missing. Is it enough? he had a rough go under Pagan and I am prepared to give him a chance but he needs to keep improving.

In my opinion they are being every chance to prove themselves which is fine (Ratten is doing the right thing, as he said this is a development year and some hard decisions will be made at the end) but they need to show more. To be honest there isn't much pushing from below at the moment. As we develop other options they may be struggling.

Time will tell. I don't care who plays as long as we win. It is just my opinion.

PS Cazz, comments like I thought the same about Simmo are beneath you and lack basis. No need!

I reckon our players are gonna have to do alot more work making their own on-ground assessments of the style and pace of footy Norths attempt to play tomorrow rather than rely on the coaching staff to do it for them.

I think that's important in countering Norths style of play as they're a very flexible sort of team and seem to be able to develop their own strategies on the fly and implement them during the course of the game to suit what's evolving during the course of the match.

I seem to recall an article where Laidley has given over a lot more of his coaching role to his assistants. Possibly in turn, the assistants have handed over some of those analyitical type roles to the various leaders out on the field or even to the whole playing group. If the players have developed the ability to implement strategies themselves, on the fly, during the course of the game, they'll go along way to toppling any team they come up against this year, including the cats.

If our players can tune into what the Norths playing group is thinking during the course of the game tomorrow, not only can we counter their tactics, but suprise them with our own polarising plan of attack to get over the top of them. The coaches then, during the breaks will just be confirming the player analysis and be simply assisting in developing counter strategies.

Just a theory. And remember what should be the TC rule of thumb..

Attack the theory, not the theorist!

Cheers

Rich

I like the idea, rich.

To develop into a flag-winning side, the on-field team need to develop plays based on real-time things, and alter some of the set plays and team tactics.

Whether we can do this in any form before the end of the season remains to be seen.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

People can have different views about things


Some posters including myself forget that sometimes

But to say that Russell is a good kick is just bullshit

Seriously have a good look


Was talking to a Geelong supporter who went down to watch a practice game early this year because he was interested in this Harry Taylor bloke

matured aged from WA

Obviously recruited as a substitute for Egan

Well Russell (thats my mates chritian nam )new one thing after 5 minutes

Taylor could kick a footy properly

Its a skill that can be improved yes but some players just have it

Style, penetration, weighted kicks you name it.

And he didnt make that observation because he is a left footer

He is even happier because the guy can actually play as well

Russell is a shit kick

They come off his boot wrong

They lack penetration and their trajectory is too low

Thats why he kicks into the man on the mark too much


And does Jarusa have stats that of the dozen or so points he has scored this year how many have gone to the right

Its a fault that he hasnt corrected

He is a hard working good person and I know he would be doing his best to correct it


But to argue the point that i think he is a shit kick is absolute crap


I am 45

I know my footy

So is Russell( my mate)

He is 51


Me suspects that Ratten knows he has the job in 09
and doesnt want to make too many changes and likes Russell

Eventually as similar players step up who are better kicks, smarter Jordan if he doesnt improve will be given the arse.
The law of the jungle

Older blokes know footy the best.

cheers,

Denis.

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Obviously Blackwell's first game was shit . I cant remember it


I do remember when he killed them at the Gabba and got a couple of Brownlow votes for his troubles

Blackwell has a footy brain

Its not his fault he s under 6 feet

he cant run a hundred in ten seconds

he is 80 kgs in a wet tuxedo

Its obvious that if you are getting 40+ possessions in the twos and you cant get a game your papers have been stamped


Good luck to Blackwell if that the case

A team short of midfielders and he would be a handy pickup

I know one thing Cazzeman

If Russell and Blackwell both played in the WAFL Blackwell would be more likely to win the Sandover

Thats because he has a footy brain

Not what I meant


And I dont own racehorses

I rate Russell way ahead of Blackwell, or anyone else running around in the Bullants for that matter including Bentick.
He has all the right stuff to make a very good AFL player, not a topliner but still a very good one.
When I first saw him I thought he seemed a bit soft but I've changed my mind on that and he's very team oriented, quick, strong, good overhead and has excellent defensive skills.
He's definately good enough to play good finals football IMO, and trading him for a fringe player or middling draft pick would be insane.

A question:

If you were an opposition coach which would you be most concerned about?

A fwd line of:

Fev, Kruezer, Betts, Walker, Houlihan or

Fev, Kruezer, Betts, Fisher, Russell.

Plus add the possibility of Hadley, Waite, Wiggins & some draft picks or trades (McKinley/Murphy/Boyle?).

We generally rotate between a 4 and 5 man fwd line.

For me in order they would be: Fev, Kruezer, Waite, Walker, Betts, Wiggins, Hadley, Houlihan, Fisher, Russell.

That is not including Hartlett & Edwards who appear way off at this point.

Can't fit them all in!

Grigg on Harvey - tough, fast, committed, disciplined and in form. He'll chat and niggle all day, too. Just the man. Army a great No 2 option.

Agree, our midfield is way better than Norf's. We have to DOMINATE the midfield to win this game.

Just think this game last year Gibbs fell over himself in the goal square missing an easy goal, everyone laughed at him, opposition supporters had a field day, how that wheel has turned!!

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Have I mentioned how much I hate Sunday games?

The waiting is crap.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

That's it! We've got to back ourselves and have faith in our match winners.

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I was just thinking that. It's such a tease.

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