Agreed. Jamo and Army can do the jobs though.

Fish won't be dropped after kicking 2.3. Sure he sprayed them, but 5 shots on goal will get him over the line. It wasn't 0.5! He'd need to keep playing well, though.

Agree 100% with ins, but I'd say another small, Browney, will be the victim of Eddie's return. B/w Army, Grigg, Carrots, Walks and Jamo I'm sure we have enough back options for their dangerous small forwards. We need stronger bodies against this lot and Browney has plenty of time, as much as I like him. This depth thing is really growing on me.

http://carltonfc.com.au/tabid/4311/Defa ... wsid=65416





In: Betts Bower Pfeiffer

Out: Fisher Saddington Russell

Here's who we played and who they played this time last year @ T Bowl

Carlton 11.13 79
1 Andrew Walker 30pos (17K) 6 i50 -- 61 TCMVP votes
2 Jordon Russell
3 Marc Murphy 0g1
4 Bryce Gibbs 1g2, 6T
5 Joshua Kennedy 1g1
6 Kade Simpson
7 Adam Bentick 36pos (21HB), 9M -- 163 TCMVP votes, 1 Brownlow vote
8 Lance Whitnall 2g3, 21pos (19K), 11M, 6 i50
9 Jason Saddington
11 Cain Ackland 1g0, 8 HO
14 Brad Fisher 0g2
16 Shaun Grigg
17 Setanta Ó hAilpín 1g0
18 Paul Bower
19 Eddie Betts, 5T
22 Shaun Hampson 8HO
29 Heath Scotland 26pos (13K) -- 44 TCMVP votes
30 Jarrad Waite 3g1, 9M -- 136 TCMVP votes
31 Jordon Bannister
38 Ryan Jackson 2g0
40 Michael Jamison
44 Andrew Carrazzo 29pos (15K), 2 HO, 8T -- 59 TCMVP votes
Rushed 3
Pos 340
HO 20

Kangaroos 24.17 161
1 H McIntosh 0g1, 24 HO
3 B Rawlings 1g0, 23pos (12HB)
4 D Harris 11pos (11K)
6 S Grant 2g0
7 A Simpson 1g0, 26pos (14HB), 6 i50
8 D Wells 1g0, 26pos (16K), 11M, 5 i50
9 J Sinclair 0g1
11 G Archer
15 K Green
16 L Brown 1g0
19 A Swallow 2g0, 21pos (13HB), 5T
20 D Petrie 4g2, 12M, 5 i50, 2 Brownlow votes
21 C Jones 2g2
24 M Firrito
25 E Lower 1g0
27 A Edwards 4g1
29 B Harvey 28pos (15HB), 3 Brownlow votes
30 D Pratt
31 D Hale 1g1, 10HO
32 E Sansbury 3g1, 21pos (11HB)
36 S Watt 5T
42 S McMahon 1g1
Rushed 7
Pos 357
HO 35

source = C:\Documents and Settings\...R21 CARvKAN 25Aug07.xls, http://www.footywire.com/

No Fev last time. The last time Fev played Nth he kicked 5. Hmmm.

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Ok Carlton - the game is being played live. More people than ever will be watching this game. All those who are still not convinced that we are on the way up will be watching. Those who have heard we are playing some good footy will be watching. Those watching the Beijing Games will be watching.

No pressure or anything but PLEASE don't muck this one up. Win it or loose by a small amount (if you must) but please don't get thrashed. It seems that whenever we are on the big stage, things don't go our way.

This time, show everyone how far you have come.

No Judd or Stevens either.

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You'd think that would be at least a 6 or 7 goal turn around from last time.

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Does on paper at least.

Just checked & Fev has kicked 5 goals the last 2 times he has played Nth (5g2 & 5g4)

Add Judd, Stevens & overall improvement from the kids as we have seen & if we maintain our intensity at the contest, throughout, we should be OK.

Go Blues.

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In Betts, out Hampson...

I'll be very unhappy if we lose yet another game due to us getting mauled in the ruck.

Couldn't agree more.

Sunday game so they will probably just add Austin, Bower, Betts, Pfieffer to bench and drop Saddington at this stage.

CARLTON
B: Bret Thornton , Michael Jamison , Steven Browne
HB: Shaun Grigg , Jarrad Waite, Kade Simpson
C: Heath Scotland , Nick Stevens, Bryce Gibbs
HF: Jordan Russell, Brad Fisher, Andrew Walker
F: Matthew Kreuzer , Brendan Fevola, Marc Murphy
Foll: Shaun Hampson , Chris Judd, Andrew Carrazzo
Int (from): Dennis Armfield , Adam Bentick, Eddie Betts, Paul Bower, Cameron Cloke, Jason Saddington, Simon Wiggins

In: Bentick, Betts, Bower
Out:

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Please don't drop Hammer. They will probably play Hale, Petrie, McIntosh. We would probably be a bit short with just Kreuzer and Cloke, who is a little short for a ruckman anyway. And Carlos is out too. Keep Hammer in as the No.1 ruckman, play kreuz up forward he's been looking very dangerous up there AND KICKS STRAIGHT. Then throw in Cloke, they can all rotate forward, ruck, bench.

Joey would go alright on Thomas or Campbell, but can't think of anyone to drop

Surely Bentick won't play. That would seem like utter madness.

CARLTON v NORTH MELBOURNE
Carlton
B: Bret Thornton, Michael Jamison, Steven Browne
HB: Shaun Grigg, Jarrad Waite, Kade Simpson
C: Heath Scotland, Nick Stevens, Bryce Gibbs
HF: Jordan Russell, Brad Fisher, Andrew Walker
F: Matthew Kreuzer, Brendan Fevola, Marc Murphy
Foll: Shaun Hampson, Chris Judd, Andrew Carrazzo
I/C (from): Dennis Armfield, Adam Bentick, Eddie Betts, Paul Bower, Cameron Cloke, Jason Saddington, Simon Wiggins

In: Bentick, Betts, Bower
Out: -

North Melbourne
B: Lachlan Hansen, Josh Gibson, Gavin Urquhart
HB: Daniel Pratt, Michael Firrito, Leigh Harding
C: Sam Power, Adam Simpson, Daniel Wells
HF: Shannon Grant, Scott McMahon, Brent Harvey
F: Lindsay Thomas, David Hale, Matt Campbell
Foll: Drew Petrie, Brady Rawlings, Daniel Harris
I/C (from): Ed Lower, Jess Sinclair, Leigh Brown, Blake Grima, Todd Goldstein, Corey Jones, Shannon Watt
In: Brown, Goldstein, Grima, Simpson
Out: Nathan Thompson (ankle)

Well with Hampson named in the Ruck and Kreuzer in the forward pocket they will both play. which is excellent news.

Bower will replace Saddo,
Bentick will miss and
Depends if Betts is fully recovered to see if he plays - armfield would probably be the unlucky one if Betts comes up.

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Hammer is definitely in.

One would think that the Wiggler is a certainty as is Eddie if he is fit. Armfield seems a logical choice with the dangerous Roos forwards so it comes down to Cloke v Bower v Saddington. Will be interesting to see how the Roos line up.

More Bullants action for Bentick I expect.

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