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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:56 am 
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I was shocked to hear that he got 4 weeks with 3 for early plea.

It was an accident FFS!! Browne didn't go out of his way to put him on the deck and its a slur against his character to put him out for that many weeks.

Blues should fight this charge .. hopefully commonsense will provail ...

1 week maybe but friggin 4 weeks .. can't believe it


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Did he try and avoid contact though? He could've put his hands out to protect himself.


That's a ridiculous statement, verbs.

Look at it again in real-time. There was no time to react like you want him to.


Get real KK, there was plenty of time if you just run the tape at 1/4 speed.


What makes me chuckle is how feral people here would be if it was an Adelaide player doing the same to a Carlton player.


Hey Verbs i could be wrong but i don't remember too many posters coming on TC, venting their anger at Lloyd for his hit on Judd and demanding he be suspend. One could argue that Lloyds shoulder made contact to Judd's head and that Llyod could have avoided contact by putting his hands out!!! :roll:

I think most people realised that the hit was part of footy and was unintentional and not pre-meditated despite the result being Judd having concussion and missing the next week!!!! Sometimes hits to the head happen - doesn't make it a reportable offence!!

So no Verbs your assertion on this whole issue is flawed and incorrect!

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Lloyd and Judd had a head clash. Very different.

More comparable is Maxwells hit on Murphy which was low impact, not severe. Many on here wanted him slaughtered at the gallows after that one.


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verbs wrote:
bluechucky wrote:
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Did he try and avoid contact though? He could've put his hands out to protect himself.


That's a ridiculous statement, verbs.

Look at it again in real-time. There was no time to react like you want him to.


Get real KK, there was plenty of time if you just run the tape at 1/4 speed.


What makes me chuckle is how feral people here would be if it was an Adelaide player doing the same to a Carlton player.


Verbs - have you ever been able to stop yourself doing something in like a nano-second?

I haven't - thats why I'm.....

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womack wrote:
verbs wrote:
bluechucky wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
verbs wrote:
Did he try and avoid contact though? He could've put his hands out to protect himself.


That's a ridiculous statement, verbs.

Look at it again in real-time. There was no time to react like you want him to.


Get real KK, there was plenty of time if you just run the tape at 1/4 speed.


What makes me chuckle is how feral people here would be if it was an Adelaide player doing the same to a Carlton player.


Verbs - have you ever been able to stop yourself doing something in like a nano-second?

I haven't - thats why I'm.....


:lol:

Let's hope the cards fall in our favour.


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More comparable is Maxwells hit on Murphy which was low impact, not severe. Many on here wanted him slaughtered at the gallows after that one.


BURN HIM!!! HE'S A WITCH!!!!

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Just heard on Fox 513 that the club will head to the tribunal tonight to contest the charge. 8)

This just posted as well:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html

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Is there any difference in this incident and the Fevola / Slattery accident.

The Browne incident was an accident. The speed of which Porplyzia goes towards Browne is quicker than Browne going to Porplyzia. There was nothing Browne could do.


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Rediculous penalty. Unavoidable contact. Not only challange it, but also take it to court if neccessary. I am sick of Carlton players being stitched up by the AFL. Unbelievable that Milburn will get less for an early plea.

Hope the Adeliade player gets well soonest, no one likes seeing a player badly injured intentional or not.

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If anyone is culpable in the situation it is Thronton, really. He pushed the guy in the back, which is against the rules, and in doing so gave rise to the incident whereby an opponent was injured, even though I doubt he intended that particular result.

Put yourself in Browne's shoes - he is pelting full tilt into the back line to stop the Crwos from scoring, when a Crows player lurches into his peripheral vision.

His first reaction would have been - he's trying to bump / shepherd / take me out - so he does what all footballers do in the same situation - bump back - only the Crows player was unbalanced with his head forward. Unfortunate result.

How anyone could expect that in about half a second Browne had the time and opportunity to assess the situation and react accordingly. He is a footballer and has been trained to respond through instinct - and his instinct would have told him he was about to get bumped and prepared him accordingly.


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The match review panel and AFL seem to be using the same method as when Baker (I think) got done with no conclusive footage. Browne may very well have smashed the living day lights out of him on purpose, however, there doesn't appear to be any conclusive evidence that this is what happened, particularly when it seems that contact was unavoidable...


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Quite bemusing that Milburn got a bigger reduction because of his 'good record'.

I guess my eyes deceived me, and that was actually Steven Browne who nearly took SOS's head off that day.


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Quite bemusing that Milburn got a bigger reduction because of his 'good record'.

I guess my eyes deceived me, and that was actually Steven Browne who nearly took SOS's head off that day.


Its one of the "stupidities" of Adrian "Chester" Anderson's tribunal system.

Taking into account Milburn's clean record (goes back 4 years I think) yet wont take into account Browne's record (albeit in junior ranks - but will definitely be available if asked for).

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If anyone is culpable in the situation it is Thronton, really. He pushed the guy in the back, which is against the rules, and in doing so gave rise to the incident whereby an opponent was injured, even though I doubt he intended that particular result.

Put yourself in Browne's shoes - he is pelting full tilt into the back line to stop the Crwos from scoring, when a Crows player lurches into his peripheral vision.

His first reaction would have been - he's trying to bump / shepherd / take me out - so he does what all footballers do in the same situation - bump back - only the Crows player was unbalanced with his head forward. Unfortunate result.

How anyone could expect that in about half a second Browne had the time and opportunity to assess the situation and react accordingly. He is a footballer and has been trained to respond through instinct - and his instinct would have told him he was about to get bumped and prepared him accordingly.


Thats what I said yesterday. Thornton pushed the Porp into Browne's path

Even KB said the charge was incorrect :shock:

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Absolutely farcical.
The kid was running along and Porplyzia careered into his path. What was he meant to do, disappear?
He braced himself for impact at the last second and impact occured.

Not only should Browne be cleared and apologised to for having his reputation tarnished. The flower on the MRP who put him up should be thrown out the door.

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Absolutely farcical.
The kid was running along and Porplyzia careered into his path. What was he meant to do, disappear?
He braced himself for impact at the last second and impact occured.

Not only should Browne be cleared and apologised to for having his reputation tarnished. The flower on the MRP who put him up should be thrown out the door.


Hopefully it was'nt Andrew McKay :oops:

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If anyone is culpable in the situation it is Thronton, really. He pushed the guy in the back, which is against the rules, and in doing so gave rise to the incident whereby an opponent was injured, even though I doubt he intended that particular result.

Put yourself in Browne's shoes - he is pelting full tilt into the back line to stop the Crwos from scoring, when a Crows player lurches into his peripheral vision.

His first reaction would have been - he's trying to bump / shepherd / take me out - so he does what all footballers do in the same situation - bump back - only the Crows player was unbalanced with his head forward. Unfortunate result.

How anyone could expect that in about half a second Browne had the time and opportunity to assess the situation and react accordingly. He is a footballer and has been trained to respond through instinct - and his instinct would have told him he was about to get bumped and prepared him accordingly.



Absolutely, 100%, spot on.

If I hear duty of care regarding this case one more time I'll do my beaner. If duty of care applies here, then clearly duty of care extends to setting foot on the ground, because contact with Porps in this case was totally unavoidable.

If they wanted to rub anyone out, rub out Thornton.


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At leat they are challenging it !!!!!!!!!!


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html


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I haevn't read through this whole thead, but just thought I'd add my impartial opinion.

If that charge is upheld at appeal I will lose maybe any respect or confidence I had left in this bullshit competition.


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It would appear there are only two possible outcomes toinght...no weeks or four weeks.

We need Ponkstar to lead our defence.


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