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Aka was pretty crap Sunday

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I heard Acker recall a story about Fev during last Sundays game. A Bulldogs trainer came out to give Brian Lake a drink and Fev said to him hang around here because I am just about to put on a show.


That's brilliant, although flawed.

Theat comment (if true) suggests that he isn't putting in a best effort prior to putting on the 'show'.

If only we could find the ingredient to motivate his best effort 100% of the game (if he doesn't which most observers would suggest); 150 goals beckons.


bondi, I think you need to give Fev more credit than that. I thinki he sensed we were getting on top in the midfield and about to blow the game open. He knew he was about to get some great delivery.

What a fantastic way of getting into Lake's mind :-D

Ratts is right, Fev does have a pretty good football mind. He has a great ability to sense the moment. He knows how to impose himself on a game when he realises we're getting on top and he doesn't miss out very often when we are.

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TruBlueBrad wrote:
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I heard Acker recall a story about Fev during last Sundays game. A Bulldogs trainer came out to give Brian Lake a drink and Fev said to him hang around here because I am just about to put on a show.


That's brilliant, although flawed.

Theat comment (if true) suggests that he isn't putting in a best effort prior to putting on the 'show'.

If only we could find the ingredient to motivate his best effort 100% of the game (if he doesn't which most observers would suggest); 150 goals beckons.


bondi, I think you need to give Fev more credit than that. I thinki he sensed we were getting on top in the midfield and about to blow the game open. He knew he was about to get some great delivery.

What a fantastic way of getting into Lake's mind :-D

Ratts is right, Fev does have a pretty good football mind. He has a great ability to sense the moment. He knows how to impose himself on a game when he realises we're getting on top and he doesn't miss out very often when we are.


TBB, I agree with you.

Fev knows thi game pretty well. If he didn't, he wouldn't know when to lead.

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Anyone here this mornings breakfast radio on nova - Hughesy & Kate had their usual friday session with Aker & they decided to have a segment where people could ring up & "Give Aker some crap" to see whether Aker would respond. Very funny stuff - first 2 callers were bulldogs supporters who had a crack at his form over the last 2 weeks. He didn't really take the bait. But the 3rd caller was a little girl who barracked for the Lions - in a cute litltle girls voice she said "you're a traiter aker for leaving the lions & joining the bulldogs" - aker couldn't help himself & responded that he was kicked out, he didn't leave. It was hilarious - hughesy & kate let him know to that he WAS responding to crap.

Fev rang up later for some banter - called aker a peanut, aker told fev to enjoy his $$ now, 'cos he'll be at the end of the dole queue when his footy career was over. Very funny radio! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Fev rang up later for some banter - called aker a peanut, aker told fev to enjoy his $$ now, 'cos he'll be at the end of the dole queue when his footy career was over. Very funny radio! :lol: :lol: :lol:


This for real???


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It sure was!
Also said that Fev better make the most of it now because his IQ is below akers age so its only dole queue for Fev later on! Cos he was in front of the mic he could always talk over him.
The dumb thing was that when Fev explained his post-match comments aker conceded that it had some merit! Flowering peanut!
It was quite pathetic really on aker’s part. In fact the whole club has been pathetic reacting to an accurate, off-the-cuff comment like that. And if their opinion of the great man is so low, why respond?!!?
I must admit it that perhaps it was slightly humerous, in parts

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Like Mil said, and with all respect to you Sedat.

One thing I would like to add without trying to be defamatory, but you are pulling an 'Eade' posting what you did.

It's called deflection.

Don't worry about a fleeting comment made by Fev over a couple of seconds (and straight after a game), rather, put the comment in context and consider that Fev just referrd to Eade's tactic which had been said publicly, that he wasn't going to tag, and it failed. BIG DEAL. It's the truth, there wasn't anything sinister in the comment, so why all the hoo hah...we're grown ups aren't we?

What's your take on Fev making that comment?

My take on that is Eade is deflecting and not taking ownership of his failed tactics.

Why didn't the more mature, level headed Eade just say, "yeah I guess we didn't pay the respect a Judd tag deserved; we got it wrong" instead of worrying what Fev said which the whole football world knew and witnessed. Plain matter of fact.

Eade fell on his sword, and instead of taking ownership, he stooped down to Fev's level as the jester when given the opportunity to express himself into a microphone. (Fev wasn't really being anything other than a footballer who witnessed first hand the events which unfolded and resonded to a question with the obvious) .

Everyone found the tactic of not tagging surreal and everyone was taken by surprise the effect it had on the final scoreboard...even Fev.

Everyone knows Fev is a clown prince (such are those extraverts like Aker), but imo Eade made an absolute idiot of himself. I have lost a lot of respect for Eade from this...he's an agro little prick reacting like that imo...hasn't grown up, but acts like he is.

Would he encourage Aker to say the same things he said? Nah..then what sort of great role model is he for his team? Like I said, Eade's made himself look ordinary, Fev hasn't changed anyone's opinion of him.

Lets move on, and the Doggies should have a good hard look at themselves.

Don't worry about the last 10 years. you haven't got anything to hang your hat on, just focus on the disappointment you gave your fans from losing against a team that dares to dream and take on the challenge.

I grew up living next to Teddy Whitten, so there's a bit of Bulldog in me, and I'd say he would think you're all sooking. This is not the way Bulldogs bite!!

Pathetic, childish from a bunch of sooks clutching at straws. Grow up!

Look, Fev could have said something like..."we were surprised at how much latitide the boys in the midfield got during the game"...which would have been an honest and innocent observation specific to Sunday's game (which, to be frank, we were very lax in our midfield pressure for whatever reason), and that would have been the end of it. But Fev, armed with precisely zero knowledge of how the Dogs have performed this year and how they have tightened up considerably in their midfield pressure and contested ball winning ability, chose to antagonise instead via a general swipe. That's vintage Fev, and I'm personally disappointed that our senior coach took the bait....I thought he was smarter than that.

In relation to your query about what you wanted Eade to say post-match, how would you have felt as a Carlton supporter if he said...."well we have significantly loaded up our training over the past 4 weeks as we are virtually assured of the double chance and we are already planning towards week 1 of the finals, so we really didn't give a stuff about today's game because we have bigger fish to fry"...how do you think a comment like that would have come across? Arrogant I would have thought. The Dogs have done everything they can to keep their heavy recent training schedule quiet, and have done all they can to remove this as a reason for the recent indifferent form. Eade hosed this down completely when discussing the reasons behind our losses against Geelong and the Blues.

Anyway, Ratts was far from happy about Fev's comment and went on the public record in no uncertain terms to state as much.

What I find bemusing is that the real match-winners on Sunday - Judd, Murphy, Stevens and Gibbs - kept things sensible and respectful post-game. I guess there's one in every team.

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Sorry Sedat, but you are still making a mountain out of a molehill.

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Look, Fev could have said something like..."we were surprised at how much latitide the boys in the midfield got during the game"...


It doesn't matter. It means the same as unaccountable. Sure he didn't choose his words right, but the kid had just come off the ground, unrehearsed. He's not pretentious, but then imo he doesn't know how to articulate in a subtle manner; Fev s Fev. Aker is Aker, but now we have Eade join the circus.

You are all being a bit precious imo.

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But Fev, armed with precisely zero knowledge of how the Dogs have performed this year and how they have tightened up considerably in their midfield pressure and contested ball winning ability, chose to antagonise instead via a general swipe.


Why would you expect Fev to have knowledge of Doggies secret business, and the rest of the year has zilch with what just transpired on the field the previous 100 minutes. He's commenting on a recent event, not writing a book on the year that was for the Dogs.

And there is no proof that he deliberately tried to antagonise; you are making that up...or rather making a mountain out of a mole hill. It's called stretching the story. Your comment here is not a fact! But you go ahead and believe your own stories.

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I'm personally disappointed that our senior coach took the bait....I thought he was smarter than that.


Here's the real issue. If Eade decided not to stoop to a level which reflects his peronality (his true self), there would be none of this make believe story that isn't.

The real loser in all of this as far as the personalities are concerned is Eade. But an even bigger victum is the FFC or Western Bulldogs, having their coach involve the club he represents into a slanging match and whinge fest.

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In relation to your query about what you wanted Eade to say post-match, how would you have felt as a Carlton supporter if he said...."well we have significantly loaded up our training over the past 4 weeks as we are virtually assured of the double chance and we are already planning towards week 1 of the finals, so we really didn't give a stuff about today's game because we have bigger fish to fry"...how do you think a comment like that would have come across? Arrogant I would have thought.


The point here Sedat, is that he didn't have to say anything, just say it didn't go as expected and maybe the week's change in training may have effected the players; take responsibility!!

He lacks accountability and honesty; that's my issue with him!

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The Dogs have done everything they can to keep their heavy recent training schedule quiet, and have done all they can to remove this as a reason for the recent indifferent form. Eade hosed this down completely when discussing the reasons behind our losses against Geelong and the Blues.


Sorry, but Eade didn't even need to go there.

He chose to have a childish spat to deflect from the true issues the fans wanted to hear...the members...the lifeline of the club.

Instead he decided to ignore the fans' anticipated explanation for such a result, at such an important time of the year (given what happened at the end of 2007) which is what every fan eagerly waits for in the post mortem. The members have given him the reigns of the multi million dollar team in trust, to guide them to a better place, not to hear garbage about Fev.

It was the wrong thing to do. Eade has caused a lot of waves over this, and I know Bulldog fans thought he was out of order for a bloody head coach.

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Anyway, Ratts was far from happy about Fev's comment and went on the public record in no uncertain terms to state as much.


What do you mean 'no uncertain' terms? All he said is Fev is an extrovert, and we have to let him be, but he would have prefered he didn't comment. Not to scathing imo.

Come on Sedat, you're bigger than this and usually pretty fair. This is bullshit. Two wrongs don't make a right, but the reality of the situation is that Fev didn't bait Eade, the media did, and he was stupid enough, or rather similar to Fev not media savvy enough to ignore the suggestion, or focus on the job at hand and his responsibility to the members.

I would be spewing on Eade if I was a Billdogs member.

Come on Sedat, come smell the roses. We beat you twice this year; give credit where credit is due, and stop side tracking us from a glorious victory by the kids over the highly fancied 2nd placed team.

It is an inherent quality for Bulldogs supporters to appreciate the feats of the underDOG.

Eade is a goose; period!

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The bulldgs are unaccoutable

Fev was correct

Eade is a sook

Sour grapes

They are too small

too soft


Judd and Stevens werent tagged

Eade was the dumbarse

As for Akermanis

What an absolute tosser


As I said just as soft as any softy in the comp

Never gets a hardball

I am sure all his teammates love him :-D


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keogh wrote:
The bulldgs are unaccoutable

Fev was correct

Eade is a sook

Sour grapes

They are too small

too soft


Judd and Stevens werent tagged

Eade was the dumbarse

As for Akermanis

What an absolute tosser


As I said just as soft as any softy in the comp

Never gets a hardball

I am sure all his teammates love him :-D


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ah, the keoghmeister strikes with the truth. The truth is something the Doggies aren't handling well atm; ref to Eade's comments and Sedat's posts.

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..."we were surprised at how much latitide the boys in the midfield got during the game"...


From the big Fev? Yeah right!! :-D

Perhaps we did concentrate on how soft they are as motivation to win. So what? Maybe Fev let too much out after the game (it's that filter thing)...

Move on everybody!

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Now that Fev is a Carlton man for the next 3 years everyone else can go get stuffed.

Eade, stop your wining and go and get stuffed!

Acker, shut your smelly hole and go and get stuffed!

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Eade had nothing whiny or disrespectful to say about Carlton at all during the post match interviews. He told it exactly how it was, with respect to Carlton and with great compliments to their powerful performance. Furthermore, he offered no excuses whatsoever for his team's woeful fade-out. He only piped up mid-week, and it was only aimed at Fev for what he thought was a comment out of line and ignorant. I reckon you guys are making as much of a mountain out of a molehill about Eade's comment as you think we are about Fev's. Some of you are, inexplicably, tarnishing the entire Bulldog club over this issue, which is really only about Fev and Eade.

That's all I'll say.

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Agree a bit of a storm in a teacup - I dont think Fev should have said it in the first place - NOT a clever thing to do
There are a number of us here who if we dont make the finals will be barracking primarily for the doggies in the finals especially against the scumsuckers from Glenferrie


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Eade had nothing whiny or disrespectful to say about Carlton at all during the post match interviews. He told it exactly how it was, with respect to Carlton and with great compliments to their powerful performance. Furthermore, he offered no excuses whatsoever for his team's woeful fade-out. He only piped up mid-week, and it was only aimed at Fev for what he thought was a comment out of line and ignorant. I reckon you guys are making as much of a mountain out of a molehill about Eade's comment as you think we are about Fev's. Some of you are, inexplicably, tarnishing the entire Bulldog club over this issue, which is really only about Fev and Eade.

That's all I'll say.


Sedat, truly, I don't want to hurt your feelings...as I said, I have a real soft spot for the Doggies.

You're missing the point completely.

It is about Eade being baited by the media.
It is about Eade not giving his fans reasons for the loss
It is Eade who is flying the flag for the Doggies and as flag dearer, he's whinging and entering a slanging match.
We don't like it when Fev brings are club to disrepute, and you shouldn't like it when Eade does...and he did.
The Head coach went into a slanging match.....the Head coach!

Good luck to the Doggies in the finals, and may they (please) with the flag(they should have won in '92), and long live Footscray FC and the Doggies.

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Eade had nothing whiny or disrespectful to say about Carlton at all during the post match interviews. He told it exactly how it was, with respect to Carlton and with great compliments to their powerful performance. Furthermore, he offered no excuses whatsoever for his team's woeful fade-out. He only piped up mid-week, and it was only aimed at Fev for what he thought was a comment out of line and ignorant. I reckon you guys are making as much of a mountain out of a molehill about Eade's comment as you think we are about Fev's. Some of you are, inexplicably, tarnishing the entire Bulldog club over this issue, which is really only about Fev and Eade.

That's all I'll say.


Under normal circumstances I'd bite you over the comments highlighted in bold; Doggies or Blues supporter wouldn't make a difference.

No one is tarnishing the Doggies....you making that up. In fact have a look at the bold above...and have a good think about it....I'll give you a hint...generalisations, incorrect comments, story telling, deflection continues.

Lets drop it....if you don't see Eade's mistake by now (highlighted clearly throughout this thread), then it's not worthg pursuing with repeat posts.

HINT: He made a fool of himself and didn't represent the Doggies with dignity and the strength of character normally expected from the senior coach ie To rise above the (Fev/ media) bullshit.

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After watching yesterday's game I reckon Fev was spot on about the Doggies accountability last week

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