You're up early/late Jars. No excuse for me - 9:03am in sunny San Diego.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

TFS arranged all of that which was obvious. I wouldn't mind if that was Fev, infact, I'd find it pretty funny.

Brown does not go on the footy show and scoff when asked if he'd consider a 1 or 2 year contract.

Scoff!!

The difference is only subtle, but that's what Fev lacks, subtlety.

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Brisbane players RULE!

Carlton players SUCK!

Just watch how Brown acts last night and he handles it better than Fev. Fev is way of the Brown's league and I laugh when people compare them.

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Delulio is a member of TISM

Brown was very humble and almost embarassed by the carry on last night, what a champ. He isn't going anywhere.

Brown is God.

Fevola is Satan.

What's Judd then?

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The Future is Bright, the Future is Navy Blue.

All depends how their style of play and lack of tall forward options goes in the finals. If it all ends like it did in WC 2 years ago then they might bite big time.

Considering some very very handy footballers at the kennel will retire in the next year or two i wouldn't be so sure

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

I couldn't give a $hit what Brown does he doesn't play for us so therefore doesn't make OUR club look like his own personal joke a couple of times a year.

Newsflash!!!!!!!!!! This thread isn't about Johnathon Brown

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Brown = Mature

Fev = Infant

On and off the field.

Both have great ability, Fev will probably have a longer career, Brown more valuable to a team.

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The demons are not going to waste their first pick on Fev (pick 1 or 2) in the ND, but he could slip through to picks over 10, which is why we have to re-sign him.

Gotta love what you read in some cases. Brown's contract negotiations have been going on longer than Fev's but that's ok he's Jonathon Brown. But when Fev's goes on for ages he's the worst in the world. Fev hasn't created the circus, he's said nothing. Even on TFS he said he wasn't discussing his contract. He actually had to ring MMM very angrily to reveal his intentions to cut the speculation. Then the dopey dicks of the world still put their own spin on it depending on their agenda. Basically he got in more sh1t saying nothing. But, of course it's different because it's Fev. People are simply way too stupid and think way too simple to see the difference between perception and reality. It's why you wouldn't give 75% of opinions the time of day. Fev's contract has been one big media circus created by the media because they were getting very little from the player or the club at the time.

spot on.
forget the first 82 pages...

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No matter how long it takes Carlton to rebuild, they will still win a premiership before Essendon* and Collingwood.

Fev did not scoff at a 1 or 2 year contract. He said he wouldn't be signing a 1 year contract. Thats because he hadn't been offered a 1 year contract

Anyone who reckons there is a difference between Fev and Brown in their contract negotiations is kidding themselves.

Brown may be one of the Top 5 players in the AFL now, but he knows where his body will be in 3-4 years time (check out the quick demise of similar players in Brereton and Carey if you don't know) thats why he's sticking out for a 5 year contract.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Two BIG differences between the two, their missus and their managers!

Also, Carlton players SUCK! Brisbane players RULE!

EXACTLY!!!

finally someone who agrees with me.

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"I can't wait to win a premiership with this club" - Fev

Well, I'd hope they had a different missus...last thing we need is another scandal

Besides that, I don't see any difference. Tell me what Fev has done that Brown hasn't, in terms of the negotiation process?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Mate, if you red this thread you'll see there are a lot of people who agree with you.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010