Stevo continually allowed Ablett to stand in front of him at ballups and centre bounces

Playing him in defence for the last quarter was punishment for a lack of effort in the first 3

How many times do you have to be told

If you have passengers you get found out


Stevens has never and will never cope with a heavy tag.

Judd didnt yesterday either but how often does that happen


It would not suprise me if Stevens is finished at the end of nextyear

This despite be contracted till 2010

God forbid Stevo doesn't play well.
The guy is human! Bad game. Move on! Good thing about football is he has next week to try again.

To many people on here are to quick to jump on guys for such little things.

If Stevens was to play at his best for 22 Rounds he'd win a brownlow.
The fact of the matter is he's not capable of that...not many are.
He had an off week. LEAVE HIM ALONE

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I hear what you're saying, but for mine it comes back to whether or not there is a problem, with either Stevo or JR or anyone. Opinion is & will be divided either way as to whether or not these guys fit or not.

My view is that there is currently no underlying, glaring, smack you in the face problem with this team, or Stevo or JR for that matter. Here we go, come on all you JR haters - get into me. They are just footballers that are, like Judd, Ablett, Goodes, normal people. These guys are not machines you can just turn on the day of a game & say righto GO Get em boys. What if Stevo's cat died the morning of the game & he loved that cat. Buckley was the same in a milestone game for the Pies when his dog died that morning - He came out & was terrible, because he's human & his mind was not on it. Great footballer IMO but still able to be affected by life.

I just think this team & the current players in it, need to be together for longer than they currently have, along with the current coaching staff, because if we continue to list change or cut staff (etc) all we are doing is what we have had to do for the past few years, which is creating an imbalance in the group & inconsistency breeds from there (players & coaches alike). Keeping the same group creates a balance & the more balance you have over time, creates a position of strength.

All clubs have to cut players from their group in order to progress & that will happen. I just think we are being a little premature with this particular group because they haven't played together enuf. Not with the likes of Judd & Stevo anyway. We need to give these kids like JR more of a taste of success, instead of the failure he & others like Wiggo (god bless him) have had to endure, along with the added speculation & critique of their fans & supporters. Sorry, far too long for a chat I know. I'll get the hang of this soon.

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Is it coincidential that he played his best game for the year when he was Captain for the day

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I'm sure I didn't see you in the coaches box Keogh or were you on the bench.

Statements like "How many times do you have to be told". I don't need to be told anything by you so stop trying.

It is a matter of opinion & in mine, yours don't count.

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At the start of the season you stated that you were privately in contact re the TC rumours about a re-occurring neck injury and vigorously defended any criticism of him.



The amount of positive feedback following his brilliant 1/2 game performance against Richmond suggests his positive moments are acknowledged by most people, myself included.



No need to drag another player into this discussion to back your argument. Stevo is V/C, a level of responsibility above most others.



I hope the FD are addressing the issue in the same vane as they addressed the Lance issue last year ...and there's no need to attack your fellow posters.

You're missing the point entirely. Judd didn't play well either but he never chucked it in and even right at the end of the game was giving 100%. Stevo gives up way too easily just like he did yesterday. People can say what they want, there's no doubt Ratts made a statement to Stevens yesterday by leaving him in the back pocket. I think it was along the lines of......."I have lost all confidence in you". Ratts isn't blind, he sees what Stevo does (or doesn't do). He acknoeldged that Stevo was by far the BOG against the Tiges and would have expected Stevens to maintain that level of performance. It just hasn't happened at all. In fact he's gone backwards.

Sorry. Nothing more to say that haven't already said.

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You have really lost the plot

Do you think stevens is as good as he can be? Stevens may of reached his potential, and is a A grade player. If you expect him to be a superstar he will never be but will show glimpes in games now and then

do you think stevens is more important to our side than JR?
This is the stupidest question in the world ever. JR is one of the worst players in our team. I dont know how he ever gets a game, he creates more turnovers then effectiveness. Hes on par with carrazo. Stevens actually gets tagged, so that should sum up that question

so who would you put thought into in trying to help them? Russell should be in the reserves, hes not ready. He needs to get some balls and show some toughness. He shits himself all the time, hes got no secound gear of speed, he turns the ball over, hes just not tough at all. Stevo just needs a bit of training with diesal williams and learn how to break tags. He rarely plays a bad game.

Or do you subscribe to the theory - just drop the kids over and over and leave the older blokes alone? Players have to earn their spot. I think Fev and scotland are the oldest, the rest are under 27, we dont have old players. I want kids to play if they are up to it. Youdont play kids just for the sake of playing kids. They have to earn it.

Stevens in a leader - how well does he lead? You remember the game that Judd missed with concussion? did u see how stevens lead the team? Now you can work the rest out based on that game.

Or maybe this thread should be - should Stevens be in our leadership group?
Read answer above.

To be honest u sound like a idiot with these questions and thread, dont waste peoples time

According to who? You and a number of other internet posters. Nobody who actually counts or has any say in the matter.

You can harp on all you like, but it's ultimately futile and tedious to read week in week out.

By all means, knock yourself out.

Sorry Danny,but i cant wear it buddy.Stevens has had a very good year.Had a great first quarter yesterday and was at the bottom of quite a number of packs.In fact i thought he set the tone early as far as hardness at the ball goes.I think you will find he got his head piledriven into the turf,and i wouldnt be surprised if his neck injury has been agravated.I reckon he was playing badly hurt after that.Stevens is a lot tougher than people give him credit for.The guy plays with injuries that would keep others on the pine.

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Hey I hope Ratten isnt as blind as you are

Ablett is number 20

Thats the number Stevens saw everytime there was a ballup

I see very well Keogh. How you doin?

What number was he supposed to see?

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I thought you were finished

Nope

I can all night if need be but whats the point

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If you lot can't discuss the merits for and against our players without resorting to petty little snipes at each other you will be given suspensions.

Oooooh kinkyyyy.............!


kindest regards tommi

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GOLD!!

Suspensions tommi....not suspenders.

Carry on...............!


kindest regards tommi

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