This is the Pros and Cons thread; please stay on topic.

Paul Roos made a good point when he said you spend all week communicating with players then on actual game day you sit up in a box and have no face to face contact when its most needed.

Would be great if Ratts could find himself a wingman and the two implement the style of coaching Roos and Longmire have.

Not sure what you think but would be great to get Guy Mckenna to the club or even Justin Lepitch as Ratts wingman

I reckon a lot has to be done to the coaching and development side of the club although it has improved a lot since last year.

We need a designated development officer, Alan Richardson is great but hard to get. Someone like Leppitsch would be great.

As an assistant to Ratts I would get Buckley! May not be popular with some here but has a great football brain, is strong of mind and disciplined. Similar to what WC has got with Voss.

Don't like the Teague and Lappin appointments. Long way to go. Would like to see a F/T reserves coach appointed that doesn't play.

Riley is good and should stay but we really need to look around. Others such as McCrae, Scott, Blakey, Hinkley, King, McKenna need to be looked at.

Cons

Channel 7 not broadcasting the match live in Sydney, instead showing about one hour of highlights in a two hour package with prolonged commercials. Would have satisfied no one!

[color=red][quote="BlueLife"][u]Pros[/u]

Gibbs
Simpson's courage
Loved Grigg's goal
It never was about 2008, and I think we are really going to shake things up in 2009.

[u]Cons[/u]

Well beaten in the ruck - again.
My kingdom for a half forward line
Inability to cope with O'Keefe and Bolton
The gulf between our best 6 and worst 6 in the ability to dispose of the ball and choose the best option. Top teams don't have that.[/quote][/color]

100% agree with pros!!!
hampson?? cloke struggled
love to have o'keefe alongside fev

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Mik the Vic

Thats poor. Why can't you just talk about his game? What does his heritage have to do with anything?? Last I checked he was Australian.

Carazzo is his surname. Its not a description.

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I think Alan Richardson is out of contract this year with he pies. Maybe we could pounce and get him across especially if the rumors were true that we had him until Eddie made some threats.

I'd be gunning for Bucks. He is the type of bloke we need around the club but i couldn't see him stepping away from his media role.

I'd get Mckenna and Lepitch to join Ratts team. Both come from great pedigree and could only benefit us

I think the move where Teaguey's player coach is somewhat innovative and has plenty of merit. His message is getting across almost instant than rather later on in the week when they review tapes. As for Skinny im not sure he is as respected as some think.

Cons: Fisher unacceptable kicking in front of goal again.

Pros: The usual.. Gibbs, Fev (great tackling efforts), Murphy, Betts

I think its around this time of the year, decisions need to be made on the players that have played throughout the year and have been unable to produce.

Cons: Still too many passengers. Fisher & Carazzo wouldn't get a game in any of the top 8 teams but they are untouchable in ours

Pros: GIBBS... I know I already said it but its worth saying again.

Pros: You lost.

Cons: You losing pushed us from 2 to 6 points off 4th spot.

Pros:

watching this team has been enjoyable. In all but a few games they have gone out and played their guts out. The fact that I now look at our top six players and think they are now almost equal to any in the league (and certainly will be in two more seasons) shows just how far we've come. Our number one picks are all frightening prospects for opposition sides to confront, and we've seen evidence that some of our other picks (Grigg, Bower, Hammer, Browne) are likely to become highly competent players in their own right.

The chance is now there for the club to make some tough list management decisions, and take the final steps in this draft toward cementing this club as a powerhouse once more.

Pros:
Gibbs - Didn't someone from here once post he was a poor mans houla??

Cons:
Fisher, Wiggins both in the forward line can't cut it.

well put molly - woke up this morning and I looked for the papers - after a loss! The side is gaining ground and next year will be even better!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

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+1

It also pissed off a few Filth and Sinners supporters at work that we did lose.

Win/win.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

PROS Russell's handpass that ended in a goal . { I'm not a fan of JR's , but that was the best handball Ive seen this season} .Grigg 's goal was a special . Getting within 2 points of a top four team when Judd and Stevens have an off day . CONS Walkers injury [ hope it's not serious ] . Turnovers continue to hurt us , and with 2 or 3 exceptions , the whole team is guilty . The rucks . We must recruit an experienced , big bodied ruckman , until Hammer and the other young rucks are up to the job . 2 years at least .

Con 35 minute + 2nd quarter and conceeding two goals after the 33minute mark - should have went into half time 28 points up


Pro ---Gibbs - he is just brilliant
Hartlett got through a game - didn't do much but this is just the beginning I hope
Next season IF they come up here I Will get to see the blue boys pump this team

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Yup. And our worst six headed by: Fisher, JR, Carrots

CON:
- The clock ticking down while the Sydney guy took a shot on goal very late in the game - went from 1:15 to 47 seconds while he lines up to kick. I thought the clock was to stop when the kicker was lining up for a goal.

- Hartlet - god, how disappointing. He needs to play another couple weeks and needs to try and stamp some authority on the CHF position.

- Fish - continues to kick like a 20 beer drunk. Can someone please front up at the club and show people how to kick. Why is Fev not running goal kicking sessions multiple times per week - or perhaps our forwards coach, he must have some spare time as even with Fev at his best, we still have a poor forward setup.


PRO:
- Bryce - amazing kid.
- Jamieson
- Close game - we nearly pinched it.

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I will miss you Kouta - thanks for the memories. ps. Kouta > * for ∞

Sensible and balanced post - pitched at development and progress. None of the slash and burn nonense that others seem to wallow in