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We've actually played good football, our movement of the ball was good, some good handball, some good kicks, some good leads, and then all of a sudden ONE of our player stuffs up a kick, turnover and Swans scores a goal.


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Another pro:

How good was Grigg's goal! Really showed some confidence to take the man on, run to 50 and bang it home. Hopefully it's the first of many from the Griggster.

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Jez1966 wrote:
SparkyBlue wrote:
Juddanaught09 wrote:
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Gibbs :shock:

Austin looked good

Maybe we will get a top 5 pick


Gibbs? Why on Earth would you be shocked?! Russell playing like Gibbs would be a :shock:

Austin!?!?! Looked lost almost the entire game - 7 possessions, 1 or 2 that were decent. Provided nothing from kickouts, didn't contest the ball much and wasn't getting into himself in the passage of play.

Sure he hasn't played much - you can't expect everything, but today's effort didn't constitute a 'pro'.

Maybe we will get a top 5 pick? Gee.... wouldn't it be great to get a top 5 pick ever year for the next 8 years.... WHAT A TEAM WE WOULD BE! :-D :?


Austin was definetly a pro, for a kid in his second game :roll: . Did a few nice things :!:


Sparky, I think Judd thought how shockingly good GIBBS is.

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CONceeding late goals. happens way too much.

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- We should never of dropped Browne, he is our best hope for the back pocket and should be playing the last 6 games there. Carrazzo was shite again in the backline.


Exactly. Was thinking the same in the 3rd. Easy to say in hindsight but he has looked more solid in defense than Carazz. Whether he could have matched it in the air with the likes of O'Keefe/McVeigh is another thing ... but now we'll never know.

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memo to coaching staff

Carrazzo aint a defender so why do you play him there Bevan killed him

Russell and Wiggins are shit so why do you keep playing them

Why wasnt Gibbs moved off Goodes early in the last quarter because you sensed that they were gaining the advantage in the middle and Gibbs was at Full Back
Give someone else the tagging job

Gibbs is ready to take the game apart and he is 150m from the ball
Dumb coaching



Rattenwas out coached by Roos today


Put Judd away for the rest of the season


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THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE :MY 10 point plan
1)Fisher omitted, Kruezer to the forward line
2) Hampson and Jacobs in the ruck
3) Cloke omitted
4) Carrazzo to provide defensive pressure in f50, releasing Betts in the middle more
5) Browne replaces Carazzo down back
6) Waite on a wing
7) Russell....well, to all the pro JR's out there, Im guessing that most Carlton supporters saw more in Armfield over 2-3 games than in Russell in 40 odd. CASE CLOSED
8) Bannister replaces Russell
9) Benticks career hanging by a thread......maybe Luke's time???
10) Wiggo's career also hangs by a thread
11) Play Hartlett for the remainder of the tear, no matter what. If the hammy goes, its off to the glue factory
PS.I already know my 10 point plan contains 11 points

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99prelim wrote:
......maybe Luke's time???


give him a shot..at this point of the season we've got nothing to lose

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99prelim wrote:
......maybe Luke's time???


give him a shot..at this point of the season we've got nothing to lose


Agree on giving Luke a run but disagree that Bentick's career hangs by a thread ... a valuable player for CFC, there are few like him and if he makes the step improvement from 2008 to 2009 like he did from 2007 to 2008 then we'll have one of the best in and unders in the league ... and hopefully it will be understood that Murph, Judd, Stevo, Scotland etc. need Bentick to look as good as they do.

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Shippy_cfc wrote:
Im sick of getting recycled ruckmen. Look where it has gotten us! Cloke, Ackland and McLaren. Pathetic. If we do get a ruckman in a trade, it needs to be an established on with a bit of future. No Laycocks or Seaby's please.

Geez our good players are as good as any in the comp. Too bad the middle tier is not very big, and the bad are terrible.


WARNOCK PLEASE

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The timekeepers. QTR 2 & QTR 3 go for 34 @#$%&! minutes. just enough time for the Swans to get late goals at eat away our hard fought lead and the last quarter goes for 28 minutes just when we look like we might pinch it.


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Abaddon wrote:
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The timekeepers. QTR 2 & QTR 3 go for 34 flower minutes. just enough time for the Swans to get late goals at eat away our hard fought lead and the last quarter goes for 28 minutes just when we look like we might pinch it.


we've only got ourselves to blame, if we didn't start to try and play this bullshit keepings-off game 5 minutes before the half-time siren, it wouldn't have happened.

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That we lost by 2 points. Had we won by 2 points, all the talk would have been about how we are improving and the MC would have been encouraged to get more (undeserved) games into Russell, Hartlett etc. Losing puts the focus where it needs to be - on the players who just are not up to it. Hampson, Browne and Anderson are more a part of our future than some who ran around today.

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This is the dumbest post I've ever seen when we lost by a kick against a side that has beaten us by an average of 41 points in 10 straight games.

Or something like that as they said on The Sunday Footy Show.
keogh wrote:
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memo to coaching staff

Carrazzo aint a defender so why do you play him there Bevan killed him

Russell and Wiggins are shit so why do you keep playing them

Why wasnt Gibbs moved off Goodes early in the last quarter because you sensed that they were gaining the advantage in the middle and Gibbs was at Full Back
Give someone else the tagging job

Gibbs is ready to take the game apart and he is 150m from the ball
Dumb coaching


Rattenwas out coached by Roos today


Put Judd away for the rest of the season

You answered your own question yesterday when you saw the players running around at Preston and know we lack depth.

Maybe we should get Tom Hafey down to the club to fix the coaching.

Or we could dig up and re-animimate Dan Minogue because footy hasn't changed. :shock: :lol:


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PROS
-Gibbs again showing how great he is.
-Russell having a shot at goal and getting it.
-Fev getting a free kick.
-Judd showing his value, we played with much more direction and conviction when he was on the ground. You didn't have to check when he was on the interchange bench, you could see the difference in the way we played.
-Not sucking at the Telstra Dome.
-Mark Austin's composure under pressure.
-Andrew Walker's game until he got injured. Man we have missed him.
-Eddie Betts every time he went near the ball.
CONS
-Not converting enough of our opportunities.
-Stevens playing in Pagan era cruise mode- its just not good enough anymore.
-Karma police still not catching up with the new age-ist Swans.
-Honourable losses blow.


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i too think walker did ok in his first game back. not his greatest fan but liked his game today uber uber competietive...abd will benefit the team more than not

players like bentick, carrazzo, russell are problematic in my view

hartlett provided a contest no complaints...

austin did ok no complaints

jamison is really good.

stevo was coached out of the game - no real complaints with his game..

we have no ruck, we are getting smashed in the clearances bentick in his mid 20s is not up to it... time to give jacko & blackers a run..


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BlueIce wrote:
This is the dumbest post I've ever seen when we lost by a kick against a side that has beaten us by an average of 41 points in 10 straight games.

Or something like that as they said on The Sunday Footy Show.
keogh wrote:
CON
memo to coaching staff

Carrazzo aint a defender so why do you play him there Bevan killed him

Russell and Wiggins are shit so why do you keep playing them

Why wasnt Gibbs moved off Goodes early in the last quarter because you sensed that they were gaining the advantage in the middle and Gibbs was at Full Back
Give someone else the tagging job

Gibbs is ready to take the game apart and he is 150m from the ball
Dumb coaching


Rattenwas out coached by Roos today


Put Judd away for the rest of the season

You answered your own question yesterday when you saw the players running around at Preston and know we lack depth.

Maybe we should get Tom Hafey down to the club to fix the coaching.

Or we could dig up and re-animimate Dan Minogue because footy hasn't changed. :shock: :lol:



Browne and Blackwell :-D
Maybe Jackson
I actually said Browne is AFL standard

Just read what you want to read

Said as well that Jackson and Blackwell probably wont make it but played ok. Theres 3 replacements so it wasnt a complete waste of time yesterday


Judd looked liked an old man out there today. Why play him the last 6 rounds. Get him right for 09. We have got him for another 4 years


Can you read?

I said that Hafey would be a great mentor for our younger kids .I wrote nothing about Tommy coaching
Carrazzoo aint a defender. You must be thick not to see that.

Just ask Milne Bevan Moore etc


Gibbs is our best player at the moment and he is in defence .
Why not give the responsibility of tagging Goodes to someone else particulary with O"Loughlin off.
Thornton Jammo Austin

But keep it going

Twist the truth about my posts or completely make some shit up

OH and Wiggins and Russell have played 143 games between them

Give Wiggo the opportuntiy to have his name on the locker then say goodbye.

Russell
Wiggins
not good enough
had enough time to show it

Browne Jackson Blackwell have at least earned a callup

In fact Browne should never had been dropped


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Pros
Gibbs on Goodes.....great game again and not only did he beat Goodes but he attacked and used the ball very well.

Walker until injured...dont understan some of the negative stuff towards AW...fine player IMHO.

Scotland...thought he did a good job overall and used the ball well.

Jamison on O'loughlin...like Gibbs did the job over the whole game
and was one of our best.

Cons....
Ruck....Everitt and Jolly took over after a good start from Cloke and Bolton took full advantage. Need to look at the likes of Warnock and get more games into Hampson IMO.


Overall not a bad effort and I wasnt too dissapointed like some...plenty of promising signs and it was only the hard bodied Swans like Okeefe, Bolton etc that won the day...

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