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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:18 pm 
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Harry Vallence

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Elusive Turtle wrote:
The Duke wrote:
We neeeeed Walker. We should've had him Friday, as we should've had Hammer and pfieffer.

For the rest if the year i want to see
In;
Walker
Pfieffer
Hammer
Austin
Bower
Setanta

Out;
Russell
Browne
Fish (not 100%)
Edwards (needs more time)


Why drop Browne, i would think give him more game time to mature him as much as possible for next season.


Agreed. I cannot see the logic in dropping Browne. :?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:01 pm 
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Its quite funny now about what to do with the team for the rest of the season - the fact this season is that all our youngsters are basically playing - in yesteryears we had hacks (no offence intended) like prenda, sporn, ackland running round for us in the ones. This year, basically all the youngsters that could possibly have played ones, have done so, minus a couple.

So it is more rotate the youngsters thru the team than drop older people for young players. So really, no matter who plays, a youngster will be developing and getting a taste of afl footy, which is the main thing. Whether its joey, or browne, or russell, or hartlett - they are all young and all deserve a chance to get a taste.

But it is at least nice that we no longer have any deadwood hanging on in the ones.

And the best thing is that despite playing all these youngsters during the season, we have managed to win basically half our games.

Good sign i say!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:57 pm 
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Bruce Comben

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keogh wrote:
A few observations

Regulars
Russell
Cloke
Wiggins
Bentick

Are IMO not up to it and have had enough time to show it

I reckon the first 3 I can mount a strong enough case for that

Bentick is a great tackler and gutsy but is too slow and too poor a kick and he wont get better at both particularly in the pace department.
Pace and kicking are really important in the modern game as opposed to 30 years ago . They were important then too just not as much



I dont agree with any of those to be honest, Bentick and Russel havent had enough of an opportunity yet in my opinion, I know they have both had a few years, but years in a poor team without the support and 40 or 60 odd games is still low. I still think they both have too much potential and should continue to play. I think Cloke is done as a No.1 ruckman, but still has potential as a forward and a back up around the ground ruck. Wiggins is the only one who im not sure about, but i think he still should be tried for the rest of the year, but i think you could be right on him (now off to hide from the rest of the forum)


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:57 am 
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Horrie Clover

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tamerlane wrote:
keogh wrote:
A few observations

Regulars
Russell
Cloke
Wiggins
Bentick

Are IMO not up to it and have had enough time to show it

I reckon the first 3 I can mount a strong enough case for that

Bentick is a great tackler and gutsy but is too slow and too poor a kick and he wont get better at both particularly in the pace department.
Pace and kicking are really important in the modern game as opposed to 30 years ago . They were important then too just not as much



I dont agree with any of those to be honest, Bentick and Russel havent had enough of an opportunity yet in my opinion, I know they have both had a few years, but years in a poor team without the support and 40 or 60 odd games is still low. I still think they both have too much potential and should continue to play. I think Cloke is done as a No.1 ruckman, but still has potential as a forward and a back up around the ground ruck. Wiggins is the only one who im not sure about, but i think he still should be tried for the rest of the year, but i think you could be right on him (now off to hide from the rest of the forum)



I agree with Keogh, the names listed are people just filling the holes until others mature and take them over, none have showed they will be stars or that they are vital cogs in the team structure. Once we get a decent ruckman Cloke won't be needed, he isn't a strong forward and he would be to slow down back, don't get me wrong I love the way he goes about it but he just is a gap filler, bentick is the same, does get in and do the itty gritty stuff but I think if someone else was given that role they could do it better. How many chances does Russell need, once he gets 100 games will that be enough to drop him, i would probably not delist him straight away but send him to the bullants for a month or two. Now Wiggins is ify, he is a great mark and gutsy, something we don't have up forward, I would leave him there until someone is moulded into the same game plan.

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