Not many of us were there but the back pocket of the century was.. and he said who made Stewart
"too sick"
......horses mouth into my ear.....

The Walls thing was over the captaincy....

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Fev can display he is a team player if:-

1) he harasses/tackles/plays defensive football

2) he plays a pro-active role in every so often being the decoy forward.

I haven't seen this play properly implemented - but Fev with three defenders trailing leads to the flank and Kreuzer or someone who can take a big mark is left one out in the corridor 10 metres behind near the 30 metre- goal square zone.

How many times have we seen this play properly implemented?
not enough times for me...

Exactly, if there are three players on Fev, then that means two of our players are left unmarked somewhere.

Swann Backs Rattern s comments on Saturday about fevs contract

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24014597-19742,00.html

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Ratten and Swanny should have been saying this weeks ago. Now we just have to sign up Murph and others and give Fev what's left - if he decides to stay.

If he wants to go, good luck to him.

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But for some flowering reason, WE DON'T KICK IT TO THEM!

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Not quite as easy as that. They drop an extra man back for starters so they can cover the fast entry into our F50. Then, when they've got enough time, they flood their entire team back and setup a zone.

This means unless we've got 100% accuracy with our kicking, or we have a pack marking Johnno Brown, they'll be able to cover any forward movemenmt.

We should be able to coach our way through this, but Ratts doesn't have the experience or the cattle to cope with it yet.

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That and our other forwards don't lead to create space efficiently enough.

The amount of times I see Fev on a lead get to the ball just as Fisher floats in front of him to spoil each other infuriates me.

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Why is it year in year out, players negotiate their contracts during the playing season.

Why doesnt the AFL or AFLPA or whoever, put in a rule that players contract negotiations cannot be discussed until after Rd 22.????

But I spose if that happened we would have nothing to talk about,,,,right !!!!!!

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Sydney Blue you are 100% correct. I never thought I would say it, but I am warming to Nathan Buckley as a specialist commentator. I rate his opinion very highly and agree with his comments regarding Fev.

People on this forum might not because it is called Talking Carlton. There is a bias that often clouds the judgement and value we give to our own players.

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It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!

I agree with Bucks and SB. By accepting Fev as he is, we're de-valueing the brand of the CFC. It's about time we stood up to this BS from Fev and told him that the club is a giant compared to him.

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At least its not like the NRL where players agree to terms and contracts with other clubs during the course of the season.

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BEST THREAD EVER!!!!!!

Seriously, this thread has got it all:


Fev is great, we can't afford to lose him, give him 5 years/Fev is a spoilt brat, either sign him up on a 1 year deal or trade him.

Fev is not a team player, he only think about himself/Buckley was a selfless team player who didn't care about the money - he came home (TO VICTORIA) just like Judd.

Walls left Carlton for Fitzroy because he punched up Stewart/Walls left Carlton for Fitzroy because Doull punched up Stewart when he stuck up for Walls.


There is some pure comedic gold in this thread, easily one of the best since the Judd thread
I wish it could go on for the rest of the year, but unfortunately it will disappear shortly when Fev signs the contract. There just seems to be a complete lack of knowledge by some on here of how contract negotiations play out in the real world.

I would take whatever the media say in these dealings with a grain of salt.......... however,



















Please, by all means, carry on!!

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Agreed. I hope we play hard-ball with Fev. He has continually dragged The Club's Name through the mud and the club has still stood by him. HE owes Carlton big-time. This ongoing saga is a distraction we don't need.
He was an embarrasment to the club on Friday night and his call to MMM was pathetic. His poor-fellow me attitude is indicitive of his selfish nature


It's Time for Fev to put the club before himself - sign and shut-up.

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If it goes that long you can 100% guarantee he won't be here next year But at least you'll have a good laugh

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

I don't give a toss what the media says. I read the paper and listen to the journos and take it with that grain of salt.

But when I hear it from the coach's mouth, and the player in question's mouth, and see what happens on field when this guy is supposedly earning his dollars, I get pissed!

He's shown he hasn't matured even though we keep grasping with every good game he plays. He hasn't, he won't, he either signs on for a fee that is suitable for both parties, or we piss him off.

It's not that hard.

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Wow.....52 pages on this topic....What a waste of time and shows that certain people have nothing better to do.

Good on Fev for ringing up and clarifying a few things. All this talk over the last few weeks about him shopping himself around was and is a load of crap. EVERY time he was asked about his contract in the media he didn't comment and said his manager is sorting it out. Then the John Barnes article proved to be lies and he had to retract it ! Then the Sydney boxing issue again showed to be crap as nobody suppossedly present has since come forward to say that it actually happened.

Yes Fev has had some issues and his body language can be poor at times but big deal. I will take his match winning genius with that any day of the week. His off field issues although stupid, immature etc....have never really been anything that bad like king hitting anyone (Hall/Soloman), drunk driving etc,,,,so get over it !

Fev is our present and future success to winning games and getting back to where we belong. If people want to keep bagging their own to this extent then maybe go and support someone else !!!!!

When the Coach, CEO and President come out like they have over the weekend, it's no media beat up, the club is pissed off at Fev and so they should. I couldn't care less if he didn't sign, another 2 top 20 picks in return for Fev is a big win for our future IMO.

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Couldn't agree more.

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