Fev needs to decide if he wants to be part of the team or the princess of whales and expect everyone else in the team to adore him.

While I have no doubt he is respected and liked by his team mates, I think he is running very thin on love from the coach and board of Carlton.

Ratts singled Fev out as one of the reasons for losing this crucial games by turing over momentum to the saints with is undisiplined acts that reversed the free kick and chance to score and further compounding by giving away a stupid 50mt penalty that started a 3 goal run where we lost the lead and the game.

Personally I have always been a fan of Fev and would love him to stay at the club, but this fiasco regarding signing a new generous contract and the way he behaves on field has left me feeling that I don't care anymore if he were to leave if we get something decent in return.

you dont throw your quality players away because you dislike his personality. he is a match winner.. he stuffs up and had a shocker last night but you add to the quality of judd, fevola, stevens, gibbs, waite not subtract.

people sayin we wont win a premiership until fev is out of the team are stupid we wont win a game let a lone a premiership without fev, his our most important player, and while he didnt have his best game last nite we didnt lose last nite because of fev, every players has a bad game, time to move on people.

_________________
"I can't wait to win a premiership with this club" - Fev

should have traded Fev for Judd and kept Kennedy and our picks.

_________________
The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

I disagree, I think Jordan Russell is our most important player. *








Fev can't be our only forward option - it is too much responsibility for such a head case.



Open up other options such as Kreuzer and Pfeiffer and it releases pressure off him. He can't handle pressure as applied by people such as St Kilda's fullback.



Every time he gets niggled his brain has to think the ONLY way to answer is to help the team on the scoreboard. His brain doesn't work in that way.



In Fev's defence, Hughton held onto Fev and wrapped his arms around him and prevented him from contesting. The umpires are too scared to pay those free kicks. There was a classic one in the third quarter.




* by the way, I was joking about the Russell comment.

Exactly. Fev was being being hung onto illegally the whole night and got nothing from the umpires except one where The Cryer pulled him down in the second and Fev nearly copped a knee in the head from a guy coming the other way. The umpires offer him no protection at all. You try to keep your cool in those conditions.

_________________

************************************************************
NOW YOU'RE JUST SOME CLUB THAT I USED TO KNOW.

Fev is our present and future......Without him we are going nowhere !

Ratten shouldn't have a structure so heavily reliant on Fevola kicking a bag every week. Not good enough!

You miss the point. He is a selfish footballer who thinks of himself. He is an ego driven spoilt pratt.

Loves the attention, but when things are not going his way, he lets the team down massively with his undisciplined acts!

I hope he does not sign the bloody contract. Lets get a team player int he goal square.

Spot on Succinct and to the point

And he wont change

He is 28 in January

So what do you do

3 year deal is very generous

We need a structure around

Having Wiggins and Russell up doesnt help

Who is going to watch Hartlett at the Bullants????

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Good point. I forgot about Harts....

I hope he and Walker have blinders. I hope Harts can stay hammy free and give us something. For his sake and ours.

Could have bet the farm that someone was going to start a thread about Fev after last night.

_________________
“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Were you guys there last night? I do not understand how you can justify that sort of behaviour especially in a team sport.

Aint this the truth!!

Is it just me, but when I see Fev, Fish, Jake and Co taking up their positions at the start of the game, I just say to myself, 'Well I'm a hack footballer, but why on earth do we only have one REAL target and 2 x "3rd tall" options, one of the latter being a kid who gets brushed aside too easily and hasn't done nearly enough for the Ants to EARN a spot, the other being crucified (emphasis added) as having to play the "2nd tall"????

I stray to the other end of the ground and I see structure, sigh. You know, one of those things is called a CHF, who most likely can take a CONTESTED mark and/or at least break open a pack.

I then look at our backs and see Waite going down to cover someone that one of Carlos/Jamo can cover? Throw in Bower when he gets back (make it soon, please, mate). Point in question was last night. 1/2 way through third qtr when Saints got about 6 goals up, I said to the guys around me, "FFS, get Jamo on Reiwoldt and get Waite forward!!! Jamo is our BEST defender, bung shoulder or not". Guess what, before the ball was bounced the miracle at the G had transpired and my inspired coaching move was put in place.

Hands up who though Jamo, with one arm mind you, did a better job on Reiwoldt? What a gun this guy is and how lucky we are to have him. Worth having Crosisca just for that recruiting coup.

Waitey did have a Barry Crocker but did at least kick a goal and AGAIN gave our forward line STRUCTURE. He'll have better days, I'm sure.

I'll be stuffed, but if Waite @ CHF, Walks to a HFF and Carlos/Bower back doesn't improve our structure by 200%, well..... JR, Fish and Jake - back to the Ants lads until you show us a sign. I really think Kreuzer can be our next superstar @ CHF (i failed to get too upset about losing JK when I contemplate this), but for the moment he's obviously not ready for that. Waite is.

Sorry all, but just had to get that off my chest.

P.S. There is also hope when you think Army will be back soon.

Look 2 x 3rd talls (Fisher and Edwards ) does not make 1 CHF...

Its laughable...

We need a forward line structure .. we havent improved that all year.

Again Betts has to conjure up goals out of his arse for us to kick goals.. but theyre not structured are they???

Hartlett should be in the side...

Fisher should be dropped and Edwards should get 4 weeks to show something.

Actually.. id rather go with HAmpson in the ruck.. Edwards and Fish out and Kreuzer the third tall with Hartlett at CHF

Waite to the wing.... where he doesnt have to be as accountable.. cos he aint...

And more pace through the midfield!!!.. and please drop Russell... enough is enough!!!!!

It looks like he will be our untouchable come trade time....

We will have him off limits come trade thim...

.. and noone wants to touch him!!!....


Are they blind????? he aint that good!!!

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

this post wouldn't exsist if we'd won last night.

he had a very average game and will have to improve against the swans next week. he is our go to man and kicks such a large percentage of our goals. he is very important to our team and i'd like to see him stay he for quite some time...having said that, while he is in the team, we dont seem to be looking for another full forward or giving any other opportunities.

_________________
"You don’t get much more Navy Blue than Stephen Kernahan" - Marc Murphy

i said it before the game happened.

but if we could get 2 top 10 picks for Fevola in this years draft.

i would do it.

we, as a side, have dug a whole for ourselves with regards Fev. We are always looking, and always expecting him to kick bags to win.

we need to change this drastically.

would another tall marking forward help? possibly, be we arent in a position to trade for one this year so we have to develop our own.

they only way to do that is in this years draft. all reports suggest there is some serious talent for tall marking options.

if trading fevola meant we could secure 2 top 10 picks and get quality young tall makring forward options this year i would say do it.

Fevola in the right side could win you a premiership. For those that dont think he has value its a joke, He is an elite full forward, probably the best in the comp, but his window is small.

we need to change our tactics and i dont think we can do that with fev in the side.

hell, if we retained him i wouldnt have a huge issue with either. I wouldnt mind seeing him play as a CHF. I think he has the weapons to do so, perhaps slightly change his training regime so that he can become a fitter runner.

Fevola at CHF, feeding the likes of Harlett, Fisher, Cloke out of the square would result in more goals than Fevola at FF.

We either have to change the game plan, or change the player.

We cant continue on like this.

p.s. our loss on the weekend was not due to fevola. we had too many people down on the day for us to be competitive. You have 1 or 2 players down and you are gone, i dont care who the side is. We probably had 3 or 4. (Stevens, Fevola, Waite, Thorton all had stinkers)

_________________
Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

Ratts was just on SEN talking about Hartlett. Harts has been on a six week program to prepare for the seniors again, if he gets through tomorrow he is playing next week basically.

_________________
Mjonc signing off at 8888

Two top 10 picks would be lovely, but aint going to happen.
No one is going to sell there soul to get Fev.

It means giving up your first round pick and giving away a seriously good footballer for another.

Melbourne wont do it-would rather get him for free
Freo- always a chance to do it...i guess if Pav leaves then we have a chance
W.C wont do it, they are 'looking to the future'
Port- could consider Fev, but who are they trading for another top 10 pick? Not going to trade Salopek, the burgoynes or the corne's. Who else attracts a top 10 there?
Essendon- lloyd and lucas ageing... could do with Fev but again they arent going to trade stanton, gumbleton, myers or ryder and there is not much else around there that can attract a top 10 pick
Richmond- could use Fev again who can get them a top 10 pick

etc.....perhaps a top 10 pick and a late first round pick......but no hope in 2 top 10 picks. No hope in hell

_________________
Loooook OUT!