In time... Judd will retire and so with Fevola...
In time we will all be dead!!!
In time Ratts wont be coaching...

Thats the thing about time isnt it???

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anyone who thinks Benjamin and Aisake are our answers cannot be taken seriously .

We need footballers not projects - Projects cost you goals at critical parts of games

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I prefer Days of Our Lives to the Bold and Stupid.

The Judd factor didn't get us over the line but he did lead the team and they lifted.

The players I mentioned lifted in the last to get us over the line.

Did you query Hammer being dropped before the loss or only after we lost?

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Yeah i did!!!

ask Princes Park Whistler...

Who actually knows me....

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Get the 8 wins we hoped for this year a few more next year then challenge the year after.
Judd will still be there, Fev will still be there playing his role as part of a functioning modern forward line and Ratts will still be there.

I am happy with Ratts. We have played some good football this year just not consistantly. As the youngsters mature we will put it together.

If you are not happy with Ratts and want results quicker or would rather he went about it your way then thats ok.

Different Strokes for Different folks.

Did you post that or just mention to PPW?

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Its a good debate and Im happy the issues are out on the table
The point about 'time' is a good one. Im sick of the attitude that we are a work in progress. FFS lets stop making excuses and start to WIN games of football that we should win
That was the most disheartening part about the Essendon* result.

The thing is this...

Fev kicks goals (Good thing)
Fev and the forward line can kick more goals (very good thing)
For that to happen the forward line needs structure (workand imagination)
Midfield is potetially great cos we have the best midfielder (Very good thing)
That midfield can improve if everybody knows what theyre doing(work)
We kicked 100 points against a shit Essendon* (ok thing could win you the game)
But we conceded 140 odd points against a shit Essendon* (not good)
If we control the footy Fev and a rejigged forward line can apply goal scoring pressure kick us a winning score (very very good thing)
It also means that if your midfield is working fluently and everyone knows what theyre doing... you wont cop 140 points (fantastic thing)
Which means the defenders look better instead of being under the pump against a shit Essendon* and they keep Essendons score down (very very good)

But because Judd went down early... (bad thing).. and the others had no clue how to engineer control of the ball .. including A grader Stevens... John Nicholls medalist Carrazzo.. runner up Scotland.. and a couple of younger kids.... we lost to a shit team (very very bad thing)

So what you do is this... drill a side so everybody understands their role through the game and the midfield...and option a ) Fev.... option b)a host of others.....
The opposition gets less of the ball to score 140 points (the scoreboard flattered us really).... and we kick winning scores more often.....!!!

Thats the game.. simple...!!!

Its not like we played a well drilled outfit (Geelong or Hawthorn or the Dogs)

It was Rheimers and Watson and Neagle ....(Thats bad)



I said it to the whistler... the whister knows what i think..as do others i know..... many.. many others....

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I will say we are one of the least drilled sides in the league
How often do we help out each other, run, block, shephard etc..

thats my point...

Those luittle things make a hell of difference...
Players have confidence to run the ball... which means they can break lines...and attack...
Players are given inches of space which helps them break away....and be more potent...

Its everybdy out there playing footy at a basic level...

Not good enough!!!.....

... is it???

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Synbad said:


Agreed Synbad. Now once again though, why don't you mention any of this after a win?

Because he only bangs on about it after a loss.

His posting record after a win versus after a loss, would be interesting to note.

Same with Melvin,, his shadow.

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You want me to get stuck into thngs all the time?????

Look... i know were taking "baby steps "... Paganism....

But you would think we can have some things drilled into us during the week....and that shepherding and blocking and staying on your feet are basic things of footy... right????

Sometimes i do have faith in the coaching staff.. because were talking about some of the most basic things in footy.. but then the reality of Sunday kicks in....

There was no excuse to not beat Essendon*!!!!

None...!!!

It had nothing to do with us being a young side and everything to do with CONDITIONING....

Someone needs space you block....

Another thing that gets me is all the zoning we do...

Were ot that good to zone yet!!!!

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As compared to your posts...... that are insightful..... and thought provoking.. and full of understanding about the game...

Like you wouldnt know if the forward line is functioning or not...or about creating space or kicking to advantage.. or blocking shepherding and protecting the ball carrier....

Why not watch the other teams???

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Sailor Man said



The master of deflection Synners. Still haven't answered the question about being up in arms about Hammer being dropped. Going thru the pre-game thread, I didn't notice your concerns in there.

Perhaps PPW can sign a stat dec confirming that.

Only after the event and when hindsight was stroking your scalp did you think to mention it.

I know the forward line isn't functioning and I know we don't block for each other or lead up the field to create space.

But I have waited this long to see improvement in the team and whilst it was no fun on Sunday, I have not been disappointed this season because I know we are developing together. The team that played on Sunday, most likely won't all be there in 2009.

In regards to your sarcastic comment I probably miss two games of footy each week and I know where we are at but I don't pull the revisionist card out of my behind when it suits my argument.

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betts is 5.1 from set shots

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

So you dont think players need shepherding and blocking and its not a basic skill to play footy????

Its not abut knowing where youre at... you must know where you must be.. and where youre heading....!!!!

It wasnt sarcasm.. it was what i truthfully think.. you dont know what blocking shepherding.. etc does for a team... (is what i honestly think about your knowledge of the game).. and adding to hat.. you believe they must play 50 - 100 games of senior footy to know how you kick to advantage.. keep your feet in contests... make space etc???

No youre not a revisionist.. youre an apologist...

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Synbad said:


well yeah I do. Because you see, I look at your footer and I see that it says everything is going well at Carlton, and I read your posts after a win, and it seems like you believe everything is going well at Carlton, and then we lose and Getafix Synbad comes out and it is like the sky is about to fall in on our heads.

See... I don't reckon your development argument necessarily holds up when we win. And given we've won approximately 50% of games this year, then your theory works one week in every two. So what does that mean on the weeks when the theory doesn't hold? Probably that Ratts coached well and that the side is developing.

So next time we get a win... what I want is a post pointing out exactly where our development looked hindered and laboured during the course of that win. I'll read it with interest.

Off he park things couldnt be going any better.....

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