Fisher can't kick more than 35m and well Eddie Betts, he'd be a lot more valuable to the team if he was kicking 2-3 goals per game, rather than getting kicks up on the wing, but "apparently" he's doing a lot more now.

Ideally we would play Waite at CHF, but our backline is very weak, as exposed by has-beens Lloyd, Lucas, McPhee and duds like Monfries. OHailpin has to go. He's not up to AFL standard. But that leaves us even more exposed down back. CHB is a whole other problem we are all aware of.

We desperately need Hartlett or Edwards in the team. We need another avenue to goal, and at the moment these guys are our only hope. Either one should be give 5 weeks in the team without the pressure of being dropped.

I'm with ya Tyrant.

We were 39 points down at quater time and what were the clearance stats at that point? Way in Essendon*'s favour.

OH WELL!

I'd like to see Hartlett given an extended run...providing his body holds up of course.

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So would I and lets hope his body can hold up as i think he has more to offer than those all ready there.

After Ackland's game today, how exciting would it be having him kick 8 and Fevola kick 7 week in week out!

We have been sacrificing forwards to make way for Fev for years now - We turned Whitnal into to back , Waite into a back , and spent two years trying to make Hartlett a back - We send Edwards to the reserves push blokes like Fisher and Deluca up the ground away from the goals and play blokes like Wiggens up forward - Ratten even Said Ohalpin was going to be a froward but got in the way of Fev so he moved back . As good as Fev is when that ball goes forward it's all about Fev and no- one else - If the likes of Franklin and co had the ball delivered to them as much as we go through Fev they would kick a 1000 a yar never mind 100. of our first 15 entries to the forward 50 , 13 went to Fev for the total some of one goal .

We lost that game today when we woke up to the Headlines Fev knocks back 2 million deal - deflates the rest of the team

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who the @#$%&! played on ackland today

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The difficult thing with the forwards as Tyrant pointed out is that which picks would you have used instead of the ones in the 04/05/06/07 drafts on key forwards?

For the past four or so drafts I've wanted us to be lucky enough to have a gun forward fall to our pick but it doesn't seem to have happened.

Do you go reaching for a key forward who has less talent than a midfielder who you could pick at the same pick.

It is just unfortunate/unlucky that there doesn't seem to have been a forward worthy of being picked at any of our picks so far besides JK who when he's played for WC has looked very impressive.

Last year everyone wanted Gourdis/Gaertner as a late pick/rookie but we kept a pick for the PSD and Pfeiffer looks a talent.

I hope with our first pick this year that there is a key forward there who we would pick but if there is a midfielder/utility who we rated much higher who is available there then we'd pick them.

Two teams in the past who seem to have picked in talent even though at the time looked like they needed to draft a KP player are Geelong and Port Adelaide in 2002 and 2006 respectively. Geelong with pick 7 took Mackie and Port with pick 6 took Boak, even though they might have needed a key forward. Mackie has turned into an excellent player and Boak could be a future Brownlow Medallist.

Obviously not Scarlett.

Exactly. Time to try something different and also work on our delivery into forward line and how that forward line presents.

If you ever watch Footscray live the way their forward line moves is fantastic. Always active, always giving options and not getting in each others way and not exactly a bunch of big names. Also, most of them are NATURAL goalkickers, something which we lack.

I totally agree with creating more Forward options and trying things new

Bring in Edwards... Hampson/Kreuzer up forward.....

but we don't need to drop Fisher to do that.

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I thought one area we really got shown up today was PACE. Guys like Fisher, Wiggins, Russell, Bentick, Stevens looked really lacking in that area. It was more obvious when Armfield got the ball, really made a difference being able to run the lines.

so would Ratts and co but so far each time he has played his body hasn't held up - @#$%&! me too many isolationists in this place!

So nice to see @#$%&! Abbadabbaeverythingiswronga back this week.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

The solution is sooooooooo simple
1) Brad Fisher plays as a permanent forward pocket. If Fevola is not an option up the ground, bomb it to the goal square. I'd back Fisher to take quite a few contested marks 15-20m out (Fisher is a one trick pony. Let's exploit that trick) If he becomes successful at it, you might see the opposition worrying about him just as much as Fev. In summary, tether Fish to no more than 30 m out of goal permanently

2) Play Carrots as a permanent forward. He can certainly find the ball. Never know, if he finds it 25 times, we might even get a couple of goals and a couple of assists out of it. Release Betts into the midfield even more, but also supporting Carrots putting real defensive pressure in our f50

Anyway, that's my 2 bobs worth

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This isn't his best year admittedly but had a few good years previously. Last year 40 goals from 19 games. See why we re-signed him. He's a 3rd tall, as you said, not a 2nd tall. We'd kill him if we persisted with that. Do notice alot more up the ground too this year. Need Waite back at CHF. Has the twofold effect of taking numbers and pressure off Fev and well as making Fisher a tough match-up as a 3rd tall. Certainly then increases our options going forward.

I would of considered trading Fisher if we hadn't signed him for two more years already.
Waite need to get out of the backline into the mid/foward line, our big backs are growing: TBird, Jamo, Setants, Bower and Austin.

I reckon Tim Boyle would be good if given more supply/opportunity. Very nice kick and mark, plays same role as Fisher but better kick and better at ground level. Shouldn't be too expensive(same as Murphy from Freo)

If AB, Cloke, Scotland or Houlihan have any trade value at years end, I reckon we go for it, Not sure about Russell, Edwards yet or possibly even Carrots at a good price.

For the time being, Waite play up forward, Harts has been playing well in the ressies too. Give Gibbs more of a key role down there too maybe

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The climbing has alread began

What I find amazing is every time we come up against a side with more than one dominant forward option we struggle big time .

Lucas/ Lloyd/Hille/ Laycock
Brown / Bradshaw
Mooney/ Ottens/ Hawkins -whoever else
Reiwolt, Gehrig, kosi, Milne
Richo/ Browne

The only game we have lost where they didn't have hte big guns up forward was to the crows- Sides like Port Tredrea + ?, collingwood Cloke + ? Eagles Lynch+ ? , Freo Pavlich+ ? Melb Robbo+ ?


Yet we continue with this policy ourselves

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shouldn't really be a surprise as the backline is still very weak.
Disappointing to let a dud like Monfries kick 4 goals. O'Hailpin is a real worry down back.

Like i keep saying....

The Ratten game plan revolves around Judd leading the comp in hard ball gets and clearances and Fev kicking bags every week...


If one of these two is down we are struggling.. if theyre both down were gone...

Thats the Ratten gameplan...

we have 2 superstars and theyre being flogged to death to win games..

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