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Kaptain Kouta
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Deano Supremo wrote:
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The "Other sports" argument is specious.

Look at the NRL. They don't wear the same jumper more than 2 or 3 times in the same season. More often than not, I can barely tell which teams are playing, so often do they change.

Besides, we all know which design for an alternative is the best.....(And talked about in The Age) :wink:


You're listing an extreme.

Each club should have two guernseys. One 'dark' and one 'light'.

Dark is worn for home games.

Light is worn for away games.

For the Collingwoods and the Essendons of this world, if you don't wear or come up with an appropriate guernsey, you can't get hold of premiership points.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

This is only an issue because the AFL is cowered by belligerent clubs riddled with self-interest.


I agree with the "home and away" jumpers, which make far more sense than contrived "clash" jumpers.

What I like about Melvey's designs is that as well as the monogram, the jumper subtlely replicates the Big V jumper.

It says: "We are Carlton. We are the powerhouse of Victoria"

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Melvey
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1. http://flickr.com/photos/27496933@N06/2 ... 6/sizes/o/

2. http://flickr.com/photos/27496933@N06/2 ... 5/sizes/o/

3. http://flickr.com/photos/27496933@N06/2 ... 1/sizes/o/

4. http://flickr.com/photos/27496933@N06/2 ... 1/sizes/o/

5. http://flickr.com/photos/27496933@N06/2 ... 7/sizes/o/

I prefer link 3


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17th Premiership
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1) I prefer not to have to wear an alternate strip
2) If we must, I think it should be via a compulsory "Home & Away" system
3) If so, I think the regal purity of the Navy Blue jumper is what sets us apart. This is maintained best with the exact reverse image - navy on white, as it is now (or thereabouts). Once we start moving away from that, then we will end up with too much subjective input which is what results in the brisbane & melbourne alternate strips.
Whilst Melvey's designs are ok, I don't think they are significantly better than the all white. They still mangle the original jumper but in more ways. And they open the door to further "modifications" that will inevitably keep changing & include some VERY bad versions.

Keep it simple: Navy with white monogram & white with Navy monogram. Pure & Simple, literally.
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Mil Hanna
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Melvey wrote:
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I was discussing the issue of alternative stripes with an employee of an leading marketing agency yesterday afternoon. She believes that the AFL may have conspired to create this so called massive issue in football for the purpose of forcing several clubs to create alternative identities. Basically the introduction of alternative stripes is planned to loosen clubs of there identities or lower the value of there brand which makes the relocation of several clubs easier to rebrand in a new market place.

Again we find ourselves being forced to wear that white insipid alternative stripe by the AFL today. I understand the club had the jumper designed and approved by the AFL as an alternative stripe for season 2008. I for one prefer us not to have a all white alternative jumper but from what I understand the AFL are holding firm on this and again, will force all AFL clubs submit alternative stripes for season 2009

I can't stand the all white jumper our team runs around in. I took the time out this afternoon to design several alternative jumpers though, i realised it's not as easy as it seems. I have no idea how to display them on here but I plan on sending the designs to the club.... So would anyone know to whom i should send them to??


John Elliot.


You're from Geelong :lol:


.........and still have more of a clue than you. It's a worry 8)

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Melvey
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yeah you're right :wink:
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I recon our all white Away Strip looks good. Probably the best alternative strip out of all the clubs.

Its sexy.

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bluedog
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Deano Supremo wrote:
If all the clubs had the foresight to see the benefit in it then it would be a non-issue.

Many other major sporting leagues around the world have alternate strips and it works.

We're only different because our clubs on the whole aren't real bright.


Once upon a time, and not that long ago, our clubs had pride in their uniform.

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He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.
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Deano Supremo
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bluedog wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
If all the clubs had the foresight to see the benefit in it then it would be a non-issue.

Many other major sporting leagues around the world have alternate strips and it works.

We're only different because our clubs on the whole aren't real bright.


Once upon a time, and not that long ago, our clubs had pride in their uniform.


Once upon a time, and not that long ago, checking your missus in to the 'walked into the door' club was accepted as being ok.

Times change Gramps :-D

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17th Premiership wrote:
1) I prefer not to have to wear an alternate strip
2) If we must, I think it should be via a compulsory "Home & Away" system
3) If so, I think the regal purity of the Navy Blue jumper is what sets us apart. This is maintained best with the exact reverse image - navy on white, as it is now (or thereabouts). Once we start moving away from that, then we will end up with too much subjective input which is what results in the brisbane & melbourne alternate strips.
Whilst Melvey's designs are ok, I don't think they are significantly better than the all white. They still mangle the original jumper but in more ways. And they open the door to further "modifications" that will inevitably keep changing & include some VERY bad versions.

Keep it simple: Navy with white monogram & white with Navy monogram. Pure & Simple, literally.


X 2

Introducing stylistic designs and confusing patterns, (or patterns similar to existing clubs) is heading into sketchy territory and gradual iconic disintegration.

I deplore an alternative Carlton strip, but if we must then the current reverse colour scheme without changing anything elemental is as best as possible- (I must admit however that I forgot how much I hate the alternative strip when we were powering away in that truly magical final quarter yesterday :-D )
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bluedog
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We might as well change the song while we're at it:

We are the poofy whites
We are the soft young poofy whites
We're the team who'll change as Jabba wants
We're the spineless club with hybrid socks

Soft as marshmallows
We look like faggots
The new white maggots

And they will know that they've been playing
Against the team that used to think that their jumper was all class and the best in the land!

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.
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Salsiccia
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
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Gee Melvey...you might actually be on to something here.

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Deano Supremo
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bluedog wrote:
We might as well change the song while we're at it:

We are the poofy whites
We are the soft young poofy whites
We're the team who'll change as Jabba wants
We're the spineless club with hybrid socks

Soft as marshmallows
We look like faggots
The new white maggots

And they will know that they've been playing
Against the team that used to think that their jumper was all class and the best in the land!


didn't look too poofy as we were ripping into Port during the last 1/4 yesterday.

Non-issue.

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bluedog
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Would you mind if the precious 'Big V' jumper was altered significantly?

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.
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Deano Supremo
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bluedog wrote:
Would you mind if the precious 'Big V' jumper was altered significantly?


If there was a common sense reason for it, no.

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You are convinced there are significant clashes with traditional jumper designs?

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.
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Deano Supremo
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yes.

Carlton v Melbourne is a perfect example.

And the $$$ that can be made from having a regularly used alternate strip helps sway the argument.

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Bunks
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bluedog wrote:
We might as well change the song while we're at it:

We are the poofy whites
We are the soft young poofy whites
We're the team who'll change as Jabba wants
We're the spineless club with hybrid socks

Soft as marshmallows
We look like faggots
The new white maggots

And they will know that they've been playing
Against the team that used to think that their jumper was all class and the best in the land!


You honestly think the players try harder when wearing navy blue than the white strip? Please...... :roll:

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Deano Supremo wrote:
For the Collingwoods and the Essendons of this world, if you don't wear or come up with an appropriate guernsey, you can't get hold of premiership points.


This is the answer, if they really want alternative strips...watch Fat Ed jump in line then
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Anyone with issues regarding the change strips should read the book below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese

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I was actually lost for words when they ran out with the white jumper last night.

I was under the impression that we wore that for the last time against Melbourne in RD 5, according to what Swan was saying at that satge of the season...

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