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There are a lot of short memories on this site. Clubs know that the Big V game didn't mean much. Players were going at 80%. His trade value has not increased because players were not giving it their all.

Fev doesn't have much between his ears. He doesn't look after his body and will have 1-2 years of great football in him.

You should always try and trade head cases because in the end they let your team mates down. He said last night he didn't want to be in the leadership group because there are too many meetings. :roll:

Trade him!!!


Last night was just another example of bad Fev. riding high on the success of 6 in the "pracci match" from last Satdi.

Let's see him string together 10-12 weeks of on and off field form. leadership and ability is what we need from Fev, not smartarse TV appearences with threats to walk if he doesn't get what Fev wants.

He owes his fans, family, team mates, club and sponsors more than that.

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Nothing would make us anti Fev people happier than to se Fev straighten up and help us win a flag or 3.


You see Duke, that just aint right. How can you be a Carlton supporter and not support it's players?

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DIAMOTISM wrote:
There are a lot of short memories on this site. Clubs know that the Big V game didn't mean much. Players were going at 80%. His trade value has not increased because players were not giving it their all.

Fev doesn't have much between his ears. He doesn't look after his body and will have 1-2 years of great football in him.

You should always try and trade head cases because in the end they let your team mates down. He said last night he didn't want to be in the leadership group because there are too many meetings. :roll:

Trade him!!!


Last night was just another example of bad Fev. riding high on the success of 6 in the "pracci match" from last Satdi.

Let's see him string together 10-12 weeks of on and off field form. leadership and ability is what we need from Fev, not smartarse TV appearences with threats to walk if he doesn't get what Fev wants.

He owes his fans, family, team mates, club and sponsors more than that.


So taking a one-year deal with no secruity beyond that is good for his family is it?!?! ridiculous... if he was happy to take one year, then i would be worried, shows no self-worth or confidence if thats the case, and you hardly build a successful team with weak minded individuals like that.

sounds like if you were running the club, everyone would be on minimum payments and rashens, players listening to the hierachy's every word as if it were gospel with no mind of their own. Very empowering stuff... :roll:

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Nothing would make us anti Fev people happier than to se Fev straighten up and help us win a flag or 3.


You see Duke, that just aint right. How can you be a Carlton supporter and not support it's players?

Fev Hater = Carlton Hater


That is absolute bullshit!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I believe that the team is far, far bigger than 1 individual who has constantly showed disrespect for you, me, the coach, his team mates, his wife and kids and his sponsors who pay his wage. If the opportunity came up to advance the team by moving him on, I'd take it in a second.

You, on the other hand, would be happy as long as he kicks a few goals so you've got weekly bragging rights with your mates.

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Fev has spoken.

Ratts has spoken.

There will be more than a one year deal put on the table.

No issue of Fev staying at the club if he wants to.

Only issue is Fev flowering up.

The ball is in Fev's court.

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So taking a one-year deal with no secruity beyond that is good for his family is it?!?! ridiculous... if he was happy to take one year, then i would be worried, shows no self-worth or confidence if thats the case, and you hardly build a successful team with weak minded individuals like that.

sounds like if you were running the club, everyone would be on minimum payments and rashens, players listening to the hierachy's every word as if it were gospel with no mind of their own. Very empowering stuff... :roll:


There's more to life than money, 11.

He won't take a one year deal and that's fair enough, but Johnno Brown and Roo were asked similar questions and they handled themselves much more diplomatically.

Oh, and yeah, I'd have the entire team on base salary :roll: .

Proof you don't get it.

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I'm no lover of Fev when it comes to his off field antics, but there is no point comparing him to a Brown or Revolt, as he is nothing like them personality wise.

He is, who he is and as long as he remembers to stay away from alcohol and touble, sign him up for 2 or 3 years with the caveat that getting into trouble will result in contract termination.

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You never say never on any player. You get a good deal, you talk.

That said to get me interested in giving up Fev it would have to include 2 of:

Matthew Scarlett
Jonathon Brown
Pick 1
Gary Ablett Jr

2 of.

Then we'll have a chat :-)


Are you off to see the wizard? :lol:


Exactly.

We are in the box seat here. :lol:

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The Duke wrote:
LFTWNG11 wrote:

So taking a one-year deal with no secruity beyond that is good for his family is it?!?! ridiculous... if he was happy to take one year, then i would be worried, shows no self-worth or confidence if thats the case, and you hardly build a successful team with weak minded individuals like that.

sounds like if you were running the club, everyone would be on minimum payments and rashens, players listening to the hierachy's every word as if it were gospel with no mind of their own. Very empowering stuff... :roll:


There's more to life than money, 11.

He won't take a one year deal and that's fair enough, but Johnno Brown and Roo were asked similar questions and they handled themselves much more diplomatically.

Oh, and yeah, I'd have the entire team on base salary :roll: .

Proof you don't get it.


of course there is more to life than money, i can agree with you on that 100%. money isnt really the issue here, its the length of he deal... and in turn how long Carlton believe Fevola is worth keeping at the club, he obviously feels 1 year is short changing him and fair enough, cos it is.

I think he handled himself pretty well to be honest, although he can be too honest, at least he answered the question without a guilty look on his face ala Nick Riewoldlt... you would of rathered he handled himself like Roo who basically all but confirmed he is going to the GC team with his "Im not looking for a change... at the moment"?!?!?!

yes im sorry i dont get why particularly Carlton supporters get down his throat at every opportunity when he is only being honest.

finally, Fev never said he would leave Carlton if he was offered one year... he just said he wouldnt sign a one year contract, he chose his words carefully...

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That is absolute bullshit!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I believe that the team is far, far bigger than 1 individual who has constantly showed disrespect for you, me, the coach, his team mates, his wife and kids and his sponsors who pay his wage. If the opportunity came up to advance the team by moving him on, I'd take it in a second.

You, on the other hand, would be happy as long as he kicks a few goals so you've got weekly bragging rights with your mates.


Man why is it everytime someone thinks that they have the God given right to judge someone that they don't even know they resort to the same crap line that the team is bigger than the individual?? :roll:

Please tell me how the team is going to be bigger and better when we trade the only player that looks dangerous in our foward line?
But you can't even get to that point because your whole argument is complete rubbish.

Fev helps out the younger players in training more than most, he is the first to congratulate teammates when they kick goals which lifts their confidence, he will stand up to any player that gets physical with our young guys and protects them, he is loved by his teammates and is the best player on our team when it comes to charity work or giving his time to the fans.

This Duke is why you should never let hate in your heart - it affects your judgement, you only see why you want.


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This Duke is why you should never let hate in your heart - it affects your judgement, you only see why you want.


Yoda? Dark Side?

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"hate in your heart"?? WTF!!

Stand up all those on TC who have never been critical of one of our players. Who've never suggested a player be traded or sacked.

It's okay to criticize the dud, but don't touch our precious Fev.

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The Duke wrote:
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The Duke wrote:
Nothing would make us anti Fev people happier than to se Fev straighten up and help us win a flag or 3.


You see Duke, that just aint right. How can you be a Carlton supporter and not support it's players?

Fev Hater = Carlton Hater


That is absolute bullshit!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I believe that the team is far, far bigger than 1 individual who has constantly showed disrespect for you, me, the coach, his team mates, his wife and kids and his sponsors who pay his wage. If the opportunity came up to advance the team by moving him on, I'd take it in a second.

You, on the other hand, would be happy as long as he kicks a few goals so you've got weekly bragging rights with your mates.
Now your just spinning a ton BS to justify your argument. The team is bigger and better with Fev in it. Seem's he's not upsetting the balance at the club given we've won 3 from 4 and playing well. Obviously your either one of those who'd prefer to lose games and get rid of him on some unnecessary principle or as I said, rationalising to justify your postion because you know you're wrong and can't admit it. Either way your talking BS.


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jim wrote:
The Duke wrote:
Steve_C7 wrote:
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Nothing would make us anti Fev people happier than to se Fev straighten up and help us win a flag or 3.


You see Duke, that just aint right. How can you be a Carlton supporter and not support it's players?

Fev Hater = Carlton Hater


That is absolute bullshit!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I believe that the team is far, far bigger than 1 individual who has constantly showed disrespect for you, me, the coach, his team mates, his wife and kids and his sponsors who pay his wage. If the opportunity came up to advance the team by moving him on, I'd take it in a second.

You, on the other hand, would be happy as long as he kicks a few goals so you've got weekly bragging rights with your mates.
Now your just spinning a ton BS to justify your argument. The team is bigger and better with Fev in it. Seem's he's not upsetting the balance at the club given we've won 3 from 4 and playing well. Obviously your either one of those who'd prefer to lose games and get rid of him on some unnecessary principle or as I said, rationalising to justify your postion because you know you're wrong and can't admit it. Either way your talking BS.


Hey, jim, look at my previous posts and you'll see that I'd only trade Fev IF the right trade came about. I don't hate the bloke ( :roll: ) or have a vendeter against him.

You're getting all hysterical about not much. Who wouldn't trade him if the right deal presented itself?

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I'd trade him if it advantaged our club.

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I'd trade him if it advantaged our club.


The same with every single trade. Well put.

Now, what about #24... :lol:

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If Fev can keep his appearances in the press purely related to his onfield brilliance contributing to Carlton victories then we, the club and its sponsors will all be happy. :)

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I'd trade him if it advantaged our club.

In a nutshell :lol: .



As for NJS, He's worth more to us than we'd get in return.

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**Any players name here** should be traded if it advantaged our club (Judd excluded). So why don't we make this thread about every player coming to the end of their contract (Judd excluded, again)?!?!

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