Really?

I must have missed the bit where it states that 2 top ten picks equals 2 elite players, but then again you might get lucky and get 1 elite player that you will lose 4 years developing to replace 1 proven elite player.

All make sense top me. Rob Peter to pay...... Peter

Just on this, it never ceases to amaze me how people think that trading a superstart for 2 top 10 picks is logical in any shape way or form. You "do not" trade away quality.

For example lets have a look at what Hawthorn (Hay/Thompson) and Collingwood (Tarrant) traded and compare them to Fevola. Now the only person close to him would be Thommo and even he was coming up to his used by date, both physically and mentally. All other aren't close. Fev isn't done and has atleast 5 years of quality left.

You don't trade away quality like Fev for just draft picks that we all sit around and keep everything crossed that they can come through and play 100 games before even getting back some interest.

Wake up people, unless it's a Jonathan Brown for a Brendan Fevola trade, it ain't and nor should it happen. Fev is quality and he only lets himself down at times which he can fix.

Time to build a forward line around him and not vice versa.

And just one more thing, while Fev is kicking arse up forward we have time to find the "NEXT" Fevola through the draft at pick 30+. 5 years to be exact.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Surrey you've got it arse about - you are looking at it from the perspective of the idiot clubs that traded away their draft picks for duds like Thompson/Hay and Tarrant.

You have to look at it from the perspective of what Hawthorn got for Thompson/Hay and Collingwood got for Tarrant.

I'm not saying trade Fevola by any stretch of the imagination - but if clubs are going to throw First Round Draft picks at you - you would be crazy not to at least look at it.

You never know there could be an Alan Bond just around the corner.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

I certainly do have faith in the admin at the club.

Two years ago, I would have been shitting bricks at the thought of contract negotiations with star players...

...but Pratt, Swann and Co. have really got their shit together - if Pratt decided to pull on a jumper and play for the Blues, I wouldn't question it!

Correct!!!....I think

An open mind is all I ask for. Given that Fev is on his last chance, and his currency is quite high, why would you rule a line and say there's absolutely no way we'll trade him.

That's crazy .

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"Two roads diverged in a wood,
and I,
I took the one less travelled by,
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Robert Frost

Not every club has got those rewards in the draft. We look at Hawtorn, let's try Richmond the same year. Puts it's into perspective doesn't it. Not all first rounders turn out. We seem to look at the good picks but conveniently forget the bad ones. It's still a lottery to an extent. We got Jordan Russell at 9. He ok but not a no.9 pick in hindsight. We can go though our history of one wants to. Send away an 80 goal FF for a couple of speculatiive picks? No, we don't even look it it.

I understand why you wouldn't accept 1 top 10 pick. Whatabout 4 top 20s? Maybe 3 top 15s??

Looking at the last 7 or 8 drafts it becomes clear that although some top 10s don't go on, plenty of top 20s become elite.

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This is such a no brainer. He is the heart and soul of our club. Did you notice in the second quarter against the Weagles that when one of our guys (other than Fev) kicked a goal that he was the first one to embrace them.

He has been the only real enjoyment I've got from watching us through the dark times of the last six years.

Give him what he deserves.

why get rid of 150 gamer who wants to continue at carlton and finish his career at Carlton

the guy is loyal to the club more so then many other footballers in the club

fev wants to be a 1 team footballer so why dont we give him that chance

he has played in the lows of the club and i think we all owe to him and let him play and be part of our team going forward into the good times

offer him 3 years and be done with it

cheers
OZ

Actually, I got this wonderful idea. Why don't we keep Fev and use the picks we have to get another KP forwards. That way they can develop around Fev instead of taking the pressure on their own as kids because we have no other KP forwards. For some funny reason that might just work a bit better.

Oh gee, why didn't we think of that before. Try thinking of the consequences of what we won't have for a few years if he got traded...........a KP forward . 4 top 20 picks won't replace him in the medium-term because it' FF's such a specialist position. What guarantees can you give that any of those will turn out as KP players anyway? Those types take 3-4 years then you hope for the best. How do you propose to cover the gap he'd leave? And don't give us stop-gaps.

That's a great idea jim, maybe they could shack up with Fev and learn all about how to be a role model footballer.

Nothing would make us anti Fev people happier than to se Fev straighten up and help us win a flag or 3. But he's one F up from worthlessness, then how much will he be helping these KP kids??

Then he comes on TFS last night and turns his nose up at the club if they had the audasity to offer him a 1 year deal.

FFS, it's obvious where Fev's loyalties lie, why can't I investigate the other alternatives in trade week?

Shop him around.

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What player who is well under 30 and is on course for 60-80 goals would happily accept a 1 year contract?




To his security and future like every other player in the comp I imagine. If your employer decided to give you no job security beyond 12 months would you not look hard at your options?




I'm not averse to seeking a trade for him, but the deal would want to be very stacked in our favour for me to be happy with it.

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There are a lot of short memories on this site. Clubs know that the Big V game didn't mean much. Players were going at 80%. His trade value has not increased because players were not giving it their all.

Fev doesn't have much between his ears. He doesn't look after his body and will have 1-2 years of great football in him.

You should always try and trade head cases because in the end they let your team mates down. He said last night he didn't want to be in the leadership group because there are too many meetings.

Trade him!!!

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Ever heard of 'tongue in cheek' comments...

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James Hird and Essendon* FC - #FOREVERDRUGCHEATS

You never say never on any player. You get a good deal, you talk.

That said to get me interested in giving up Fev it would have to include 2 of:

Matthew Scarlett
Jonathon Brown
Pick 1
Gary Ablett Jr

2 of.

Then we'll have a chat

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Congratulations CK95

Fev is still 27 and would have aprox 5-6 years ahead of him. People who say he wont be part of our next success are kidding themselves... Remember Alister Lynch didnt play in his first flag until he was in his early 30s... Ratts wants Fev to stay, The players want Fev to stay... More importantly Fev himself wants to stay...

GET THE DEAL DONE!!!

However, the other side of the coin is that on current form, Fev is in the best 10 players in the League... If put on the market, HE WILL command a huge price tag (both $$$ wise and wht clubs would haveto give up to get him). Wanting something similar to what we paid for Judd is not that unrealistic (unlike what Scum fans expect to get from other clubs in return for their offcuts)...

I have trust in the admin we have in place now (Swann, Icke and co.), that IF WE WANT FEV WE WILL KEEP HIM...

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Are you off to see the wizard?

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