Hey you forgot he also put a barman in a headlock, took his boots off, gave his teammates dirty looks, argued with umpires, gave away 50 metre penalties, appeared to not chase & displayed bad body language......have I missed anything?

All offences that surely should culminate in his sacking right??

It has been far from overlooked, but when he is like the only shining light on the field, that must cut him some slack. For those saying same rules for everyone blah blah blah, your being naive. Imagine a Fevless Carlton between 2003-07 - we would of had absolutely no marquee/drawcard player, and not being dramatic, is the kind of thing that keeps clubs going though dark times.

I didn't realise we gave Ackland a 2 year contract with an option of a 3rd, I have a feeling we wont be taking up that option.

No I am not forgetting the barman incident, but he has been an AFL player for 9 years so if you look at the average of it all, it's really not that bad. I bet if you looked at a couple indiscressions that each poster has done over the last decade on this site, very few would fare any better.

You may want to get Fevs view point on the boots off incident before taking a stand on it, remember there are always 2 sides to a story and the truth lies betwen them.

And if we are going to sack players for arguing with umps or bagging teammates, the list is pretty long, how would you go without Thorton, Waite, Stevens, Scotland, Fev etc.

I am not defending Fevs antics, because lord knows he can improve on them, but I will not stand on the moral high ground and destroy a players career for failing to meet the lofty stanards that very few here would meet themselves.

Bull dust. His on field problems is directly related to his attitude both on and off the ground.

You can't be a flower off the ground 6 days a week and an angel on the ground for the 7th. Likewise, you can't be a sook when we are losing and ok when we are winning. Its a bad attitude and lacks professionalism.

Sick and tired of the excuses he is constantly shown.

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All true steve, but we are not being paid in excess of $500,000 dollars a year now are we?

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So more money buys a higher moral standard?

It brings with it higher expectations, and by defaul a higher moral standard

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I was being sarcastic.

If in between pissing on a window and having a sulk he continues to fit in, Coleman medals, All Australian selection, Michael tuck medals, leading goal kicker awards & BOG in SOR games, I couldn't give a stuff.

I pay money to watch him win Carlton games not to worry about silly indiscretions. The supporters that worry about that need a life

Now lets get this straight doofdoof

1 post you say "All offences that surely should culminate in his sacking right??"

now you say "I pay money to watch him win Carlton games not to worry about silly indiscretions. The supporters that worry about that need a life "


so you beleve he should be sacked on the grounds of what he has done of the field but then you don't worry what silly indiscretions this player has done becuase you pay money to watch him and thinkk all supporters that worry about his indiscretions should get a life...

i am not sure what you are saying doof doof

you want him sacked

or are you not worried of his indiscretions and wanna see him keep playing?

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he didn't make himself clear he was being sarcastic with the first post.

It's interesting when you read a post and someone else reads the very same post, 2 different opinions are made.

Reading doof's comments, he is being sarcastic, but I can understand the misunderstanding.

Doof, you need to use emoticons more. They are to the left of your screen when posting.

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No, the higher payment reflects the value he brings to the team and what the market is prepaired to pay. His payment along with every other players salary is based on skills, impact and ability to play football at the highest standard, hence why players like wiggo don't get $1 mil a year although he holds such a high moral standard.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/tabid/4311/Default.aspx?newsid=59633

Sticks believes Fev can reach his goalkicking record in this article. CFC interviewed are goalkicking championship and you gotta love this from the greatest number 25 in the history of Australian Rules.

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actually your posts overlooks/excuses poor on field behaviour and poor efforts on the training track In any professional sport such behaviour is unacceptable.

As for a Fev-less carlton - its impossible to for either side of the fence to say what would have happened. We might not have had such a 'big name' marquee player or others might have stepped up in his absence. There is little doubt that a fair few of our forwards might have developed more had they received more than token interest* when we enter F50. Alternatively we may have picked up another player in the PSD with Fev's salary (combined with any spare $ would have been 500k+/season

*Token interest in that they received approx 10-15%of F50 entries combined for all other forwards in the pagan era

nothing to do with moral standards - more having an expectation of a level of professionalism in his approach towards the game.

OK then

Worth every penny. He is bums on seats.

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I didn't write that....Don't you read my posts Caz?

it'll be cheaper of we lock him in for a 5 yr front loaded contract