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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:25 pm 
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Andain wrote:
Andain wrote:
If it wasn't clear to everyone before it should be clear to everyone now that we aren't going to be shooting up the ladder this year to challange for a final eight position, despite the high upside that our team possesses as the season wears on with Judd, Stevens, Cloke, Setanta and Hadley gradually regaining their matchfitness which was clearly lacking against the Tigers on Thursday.

Now I'm not calling for tanking or any of that stupid nonsense that abounded on these boards last year. What I'm calling for is for the club to make a decision that every player who's clearly not going to be part of our long term future, within reason, should be left in the twos and be never given another opportunity again. These players aren't just the obvious older fringe players like Wiggins, Saddington and Bannister but players who increasingly look like they won't make it at AFL level (such as Blackwell who sadly is too small and slow with poor disposal).

Despite what that idiot Libba thinks playing the kids, knowing that they'll be the ones who carry us into a brighter future, isn't tanking and is the most sensible thing for a club to do when they're in the situation we are in. Carlton isn't going to win the premership, or play finals, so lets work towards the future by giving opportunities to players like Pfeffier, Armfield, Browne, Aisake, and co. The question has to be asked, would Pfeffier have been any worse an option that Bannister against the Tigers, would Deledio have kicked more goals, and does Bannister have more of a future at the club than Darren? My answer to all three is no and sometimes I wonder why the club doesn't think the same way.

Of course that's all easy to say after we lost. Maybe Ratten believed that Pfeffier was slightly underdone, or that Bannister would do a much better job and that a guarenteed victory would be more beneficial to the other players than Pfeffier getting a game. Whatever his reasons, I'm sure he knows more about footy than myself, now that we've lost our opening match and are looking at a bleak month ahead prehaps we should finally start paying more than lipservice to the youth policy were meant to have and actually play the kids instead of letting them rot in the VFL. It's harsh on players like Wiggins and Bannister who are, by all reports, great clubman but we need to look to the future and they just aren't it.


I'm going to put my hand up after five weeks and admit that I was wrong. Bannister has been excellent in almost every game since I posted this topic and now that he's suffered an injury I find myself wondering how we're going to effectively replace him. He doesn't get as many possessions as a Scotland or a Houlihan but his role in the team is just as important and I can only hope that whoever replaces him does just as good a job at shutting down some of the oppositions best midfielders.

So all the best Banno, I hope you recover soon and get back into the team because we need you.


Well done, good post - a lot of people on here chirp away about players they were bagging a few weeks ago - ever since Barnaby French we've had people asking for players to be sent to the knackery - only to claim they are decent players who deserve to be in the 22 when they string a few games together.

The Bannister injury thread brings up a few laughs because of this. I'd love to pull out the threads and posts of these people - but it's not worth the time or effort.

I'll admit I'm wrong on a few things as well i.e Pagan, and Ackland - but I can always say I've been right behind Bannister (and Wiggins to a lesser extent).


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:55 pm 
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Rocco Iguana wrote:
isn't it all about focusing on the future and preparing the next generation ?

if so, why would we want to expose underdone kids each and every week to what is going to be a few more difficult years ?

a balanced, phased-in approach to team selection and game time is the only option.

refering to players as shit etc serves no purpose and drags TC down !

when they are out there they are trying their best, I believe.

If they are not up to the standard needed, that is another matter and best left to the coaching team .... maybe they know abit about things that we do. :roll:


Well put Rocco. Completely correct


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:24 am 
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Bannisters main problem is his decision making
Its still there I would be instructing him to kick long when there are no obvious options.
he has been good and it must be frustrating for him to have this injury when he is finally looking like an AFL footballer on a regular basis.


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The same happened to Wiggo last year. Got injured at a critical time and hasn't been back since.

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